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Old 20th March 2020
  #601
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What about using maschine to control the sample via midi. Could you save your sequences through that hardware and software? So then all you need to do is save a sample pack in voysr send it across and load your set through maschine?
this is for the vbass but there is information online for how to hook up the vsample iirc.



NI are looking to turn maschine into a daw, so I would imagine that more versatility between hardware like this might be possible in the future.
Old 21st March 2020
  #602
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Volca Sample Beta for all you stuck at home

Hi guys,
Hereis a beta of an unofficial FW for the Volca Sample. It can be installed on any Sample, it is not locked to certain devices.
The last Beta was ambitious and a bit bloated and hard to describe, hard to understand - here I have tried taking a step back and going forward in a slightly different direction.
Goals were:
A) keeping the original MIDI implementation for people that actually like it.
B) adding a "sequencer channel" - cramming all parts into one MIDI channel, including all standard CCs.
C) making it possible to deactivate channels 1-10 to free them up.
D) adding _true_ chromatic response to note in, none of that RK-002 out-of-tune misery.
E) adding velocity sensitivity on MIDI in.
F) making note triggering, pitch and velocity sensitivity optional per-part, per-pattern.
G) adding new CCs for changing patterns, reverb, mutes, reverse etc.
H) unlocking 2 new reverb programs.
I) "omni mode" - helping connecting a midi keyboard for live playing with a variety of features.
J) probability triggering for variety; per part, per pattern.
K) "bar filtering" - adding capability to tell parts to skip certain bars in a 4-bar sequence. Makes it possible to create patterns that are up to 4 bars, while keeping full motion seq resolution.
M) optional instant drone mode for noise fiends.

additional CCs:
#define CC_SAMPLE 50
#define CC_REVERB_LEVEL 51
#define CC_REVERB_TYPE 52
#define CC_PATTERN 53
#define CC_SELECTED_PART 54
#define CC_LOOP 55
#define CC_REVERSE 56
#define CC_REVERB 57
#define CC_MUTE 58
#define CC_SOLO 59

GLOBAL SETTINGS:
setting 9: "original MIDI" on/off: if "off" the original mapping of channels 1-10 to parts 1-10 will be deactivated. THIS IS DEFAULT OFF!
setting 10: "sequencer MIDI" on/off: maps MIDI channel 11 to all parts and all original CCs. See old post on how it is mapped?

EXTENDED MENU:
In original "LIVE" mode (not step mode please), press and hold "FUNC" and turn the sample knob to enter Extended menu.
Select menu item and release FUNC. Select sub-menu alternative and press FUNC to activate.
menu items:
* OMNI: OMNI MIDI mode. This will route all remaining MIDI channel inputs (see GLOBAL SETTINGS) to CURRENT SELECTED PART. The idea is that it help in a live performance setting. OMNI setting is global and is not remembered when powering off.

OFF: deactivated (default)
SEL: play in standard way on selected part
SAMP: maps sample 1-100 on to keys 1-100. Good to audition sounds etc.
PAtr: maps keys C-A to activate patterns 1-10
Py2, Py3, Py4: plays incoming notes on selected part, and neighboring 1,2 or 3 parts for polyphony.
* PROB: sets the probability that any given trig in a part will generate sound. Defaults to 100%. Remember you can use "<" and ">" or the part touch pads to select which part probability to edit. Stored together with the pattern.
* BrFL: "Bar Filter": Sets which bars in a 4-bar sequence that that part will sound. Makes it possible to sacrifice parts to get longer sequences. Remember you can use "<" and ">" or the part touch pads to select which part bar filter to edit. Values range from 0-15. Try changing it while running the pattern to see and hear the effect. Stored together with the pattern.
* ntFL: "Note Filter": Sets (per part) what incoming MIDI notes should influence. Default is "tnv" - trig, note and velocity. Any combination is possible. E.g. "-n-" will disregard velocity and trig, only changing note pitch - can be used to change a preprogrammed bass line pitch (M.sequencing off). "t--" is like the original - only using the trig, ignoring pitch and velocity. Remember you can use "<" and ">" or the part touch pads to select which part note filter to edit. Stored together with the pattern.
* Rb.ty: Reverb type. Switch reverb program 0-2. "2" is the standard one. This setting is global and is not remembered when powering off.
* dron: Insta-drone on or off. Insta-drone makes a decay setting of "127" infinite for looping parts. If it is off, it works like the original.

The firmware can be overwritted with any other FW files, e.g. the KORG official ones.

Sorry for being a bit unresponsive lately. I hope will get more time to spend on this in the near future, I find it very soothing. Really appreciate your assistance in testing these FWs out. :-)
Old 21st March 2020
  #603
Gear Maniac
Thanks a lot Pajen!!!

Time to take out the second Volca Sample!!!
Stay safe!
Old 21st March 2020
  #604
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That's crazy Pajen! Thank you so much you added everything I wanted and much more! Perfect timing with all this extra time being spent indoors.

Do you have anyway we can donate a bit of money for all you've done?
Old 21st March 2020
  #605
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wow really looking forward to getting this loaded up. thanks pajen !

i was just wondering about this today
Old 21st March 2020
  #606
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was thinking of doing a quick reference manual based on this image:



one for the FM:


Last edited by ibtl; 21st March 2020 at 09:30 PM..
Old 21st March 2020
  #607
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That'd be really handy whatever17 there's a lot of info to take in with this new firmware.

Anyone else having trouble downloading the file? I keep getting the following error:

download.wetransfer.com uses an unsupported protocol. - ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH

I'm guessing it'll probably work if I try again tomorrow.
Old 21st March 2020
  #608
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Petajaja View Post
That'd be really handy whatever17 there's a lot of info to take in with this new firmware.

Anyone else having trouble downloading the file? I keep getting the following error:

download.wetransfer.com uses an unsupported protocol. - ERR_SSL_VERSION_OR_CIPHER_MISMATCH

I'm guessing it'll probably work if I try again tomorrow.
no issues here (windows7 / opera 67.0.3575.79)
Old 21st March 2020
  #609
Quote:
Originally Posted by pajen View Post
Hi guys,
Hereis a beta of an unofficial FW for the Volca Sample. It can be installed on any Sample, it is not locked to certain devices.
Looking forward to playing with this latest beta!

Is there some way we could send you a few dollars for all your efforts on this? I know it's technically still a beta, but you've obviously spent a lot of time on it and I think a lot of us Sample users would be happy to give you some kind of compensation for what your firmware already offers. If you prefer to PM the info, that's cool.
Old 22nd March 2020
  #610
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Yes!!!!
LEGEND!!!

Pajen! I'd love to toss you a coffee or a beer.
Have you got a patreon or... Something?
Old 22nd March 2020
  #611
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no mention of the polyphony feature from the previous beta. has that been dropped?
Old 22nd March 2020
  #612
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Quote:
Originally Posted by whatever17 View Post
no mention of the polyphony feature from the previous beta. has that been dropped?
Quote:
Py2, Py3, Py4: plays incoming notes on selected part, and neighboring 1,2 or 3 parts for polyphony.
;-)
It does NOT copy part settings though like it did before. I am considering adding that as a separate functionality somehow.
Old 22nd March 2020
  #613
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pajen View Post
;-)
It does NOT copy part settings though like it did before. I am considering adding that as a separate functionality somehow.
That would be wicked. Thanks for sharing this with all of us pajen. You plus @ whatever17 and the other testers have come up with something great here. I'm having a lot of fun playing with the extended menu items and the bar filter. Thanks again!
Old 22nd March 2020
  #614
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pajen View Post
;-)
It does NOT copy part settings though like it did before. I am considering adding that as a separate functionality somehow.
oh woops doh rtfm
4x poly then. more conservative than the previous version, with more voices? not that i mind, i just tried it once - glimpsed the possibilities.

Last edited by ibtl; 22nd March 2020 at 09:54 PM..
Old 22nd March 2020
  #615
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haha we definitely have to buy pajen another volca
Old 22nd March 2020
  #616
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You absolute Legend pajen, thank you.
Old 22nd March 2020
  #617
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Someone should make a video explaining the beta and what it does. Would be great for many of us new to this to see a video of this applied to the Volca Sample.
Old 22nd March 2020
  #618
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sim238 View Post
Someone should make a video explaining the beta and what it does. Would be great for many of us new to this to see a video of this applied to the Volca Sample.
maybe shoot a message across to one of the big youtubers who do volca stuff? I think more people need to know about this. thanks, pajen for your work on the volca's.
Old 22nd March 2020
  #619
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i have a feeling that the best way is to pull out a midi keyboard and experiment, with instructions close to hand.

Last edited by ibtl; 23rd March 2020 at 06:41 AM..
Old 23rd March 2020
  #620
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Hi! Im having trouble with the update, volca says err the second after the initial test tone in the beginning of the wav. Sound enhancement is off, tried both 44100 and 48000 sample rate in sound settings, full volume, half volume 2/3 volume, foobar2000 also tried vlc. Did not have any trouble updating my volca fm but that I did with my private pc, now i try with another laptop of dell brand.. maybe it does not have high enough volume.. what else could be wrong?

Windows 10
Old 23rd March 2020
  #621
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Viaren View Post
Hi! Im having trouble with the update, volca says err the second after the initial test tone in the beginning of the wav. Sound enhancement is off, tried both 44100 and 48000 sample rate in sound settings, full volume, half volume 2/3 volume, foobar2000 also tried vlc. Did not have any trouble updating my volca fm but that I did with my private pc, now i try with another laptop of dell brand.. maybe it does not have high enough volume.. what else could be wrong?

Windows 10
usual problem for this is that it's running on batteries and not enough power. if that's the case, try with power supply - make sure no other audio is playing, ofc.
-full volume.
Old 23rd March 2020
  #622
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When I have had difficult updating / loading samples on the volca sample it usually comes down to either not enough volume, a dodgy cable or some kind of interference (for example, using my phone to update but not switching it to airplane mode)
Old 23rd March 2020
  #623
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Tried new batteries, same problem. All knobs blinking. Screen says «err» then «dcod»
Old 23rd March 2020
  #624
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Might be some hidden sound enhancement, listening to the data file with headphones i think I can hear some very slight reverb going on.
Old 23rd March 2020
  #625
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Viaren View Post
Might be some hidden sound enhancement, listening to the data file with headphones i think I can hear some very slight reverb going on.
Check "services" for anything Dolby Audio or similar and see if you can disable
Old 23rd March 2020
  #626
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Viaren View Post
Tried new batteries, same problem. All knobs blinking. Screen says «err» then «dcod»
I had the same issue, when tying to update from my laptop. I downloaded the file to my phone and installed it from there. It worked on the first try.
Old 23rd March 2020
  #627
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Originally Posted by Jazzsayzz View Post
I had the same issue, when tying to update from my laptop. I downloaded the file to my phone and installed it from there. It worked on the first try.
It worked! Ipad saved the day
Old 23rd March 2020
  #628
A video tutorial with all the new features would be interesting for the volca sample.
Old 23rd March 2020
  #629
Ojd
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What a great timing!
Tough I have question (s):
How to edit Brfl It's kinda cryptic
Old 23rd March 2020
  #630
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Viaren View Post
Hi! Im having trouble with the update, volca says err the second after the initial test tone in the beginning of the wav. Sound enhancement is off, tried both 44100 and 48000 sample rate in sound settings, full volume, half volume 2/3 volume, foobar2000 also tried vlc. Did not have any trouble updating my volca fm but that I did with my private pc, now i try with another laptop of dell brand.. maybe it does not have high enough volume.. what else could be wrong?

Windows 10

Check to see if it has a Realtek soundcard in it. If it does do a windows search for "DTS Audio Control"... Then go into that and turn off the enhancements inside that... They seemed to stick that sound card in a lot of modern era laptops and it made it so I couldnt upload into a Sample or FM unit... It worked with a Keys unit but would fail every time with Sample or FM... Once I found a guy talking about it I went and turned it off and its worked 100% of time ever since...
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