yes it is modelled on old gear, but non-lin reverbs are a particular setting and i'm not sure BAM can do it, will take a listen.

EDIT! > just looked in the BAM manual online and it does have a Non Lin setting

Cool , thanks for the heads up...

I could probably whip up a quick audio demo of an 808 going through the BAM either this evening or over the weekend. Is there a particular reverb type you prefer? The BAM has Room, Hall, Plate, Ambient, Chorus, Non-linear and Primitive.

Plate(I think) not sure, the same as soul sonic force - looking for the perfect beat. Cheers in adv.

So after playing for a while with my BIM i can say i am very happy.
I sold my El Capistan to afford the BIM and i do not regret it.

Its a very versatile delay and even if its not a tape delay emu like the El cap i can get something similar using slow random lfo on delay time and playing with the filter.

I've made some suggestion to Denis :

1 - A way to set the limiter on / off by preset. Right now its global but would be great if that was at the preset level because sometime you want to let the delay self oscillate and sometime not, depend on the patch.

2- A mode where you can use the time knobs to access the full time range or something like 20ms to 1 sec. Its nice to have fine setting for the delay time but it would be very nice to have a greater range for live playing.

Here you go! Attached some BAM demos, plus out of interest some other 80s machines Lexicon PCM81 hardware, H3000 hardware, and then Slate (plugin).

I've set them to what I think of from memory as the typical 'Perfect Beat' sound, although I didn't dig the record out. Might do that later...


808 dry

808-BAM-NonLinear-1
808-BAM-NonLinear-2
808-BAM-Primitive
808-BAM-Room
808-BAM-Plate

808-H3000-SmallRoom

808-LexiconPCM81-DrumPlate
808-LexiconPCM81-TiledRoom

808-SlateVerbSuite-NonLin

Thanks for doing this, tommorow I'll give them a good listen on my studio monitors, not on my phone like I just did, the Bam sounds nice and clean but will proper listen - I'm sure these clips will come in useful for a lot of 808 fans/users. Again really appreciate your time.

Thanks, happy to help. 808s in original electro are one of my favourite thing!

Bear in mind that there are plenty more options to tweak the sound than I have shown in my examples - the BAM has a really nice damping knob for a start, and predelay can also be very interesting. The thing I wish they would change is the daft ‘dot’ led graphic - a simple led readout would be so much better, it means you almost always need the manual to hand to decipher the dot code.

Here are some more 808 + BAM.

First is the dry pattern.
Second is BAM Plate
Third is three part with some knob tweaking. a)Room b)Hall c)Plate

Thank you all for making me GAS for a Bam now.

Sincerely,
Go $&@% Youself.

Here is how I can make my 808(Yocto) sound like with my cheap Behringer Virtualizer 3D FX2000.

The Bam does sound nice, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on the reverb I'm already using as in stick(Use what I have got) or twist(and get the Bam).

That "Tiled Room" preset sounds fantastic on the 808 -- do you know if the BAM can get close to that sound ?

I'm debating whether or not to sell my PCM80 for the BAM ... for reliability and performance benefits of having a small guitar pedal box instead of a 30-year old rack unit that gets warm.
The thing about the PCM80 is on reverbs similar to the one you posted, you almost can't tell there's a reverb until you switch back to the dry signal, and then wow. not always ike a real space, but still very natural

Thanks - I think the BAM-Room clip is pretty close to the Lexicon PCM81 Tiled Room clip, there's a bit more decay on the BAM but I can't remember if it is was on minimum decay. The Lexicon is a bit smoother. I expect if the dampner knob was engaged a bit more then it would be pretty hard to tell. However the 'Tiled Room' is one of the classic Lexicon presets, so if you want exactly that then keep the Lexicon!

The BAM has no presets [EDIT - my mistake, it has 36], and a daft dot/light to show settings, so you'll need to refer to the manual, where as the Lexicon has a luxury led readout!

I'd probably take a PCM80 over a BAM, but if you like fiddling reverb settings in real time the BAM is better for that.

It sounds like old electro so that's good, but It's difficult compare as the recording seems to be mono? I don't know anything about the FX2000. The BAM only does reverb and is very flexible so I'm sure you'd enjoy it if you don't mind spending the cash!

Thanks, It was recorded to an audio editor software in stereo, So, ok, the FX2000 is tweakable, I was quite suprised how good it sounded for the small cash, but this new Bam seems highly rated and I was thinking it could nail those old school verbs with tweaking better, it sounds nice - I was thinking by posting my attempt you could hear the sound I was looking for and maybe the Bam would be far better at it.

OTO BAM has space for 36 presets, do you mean not any presets already saved when you buy one?

Sorry, my mistake, you are right - I never use them so I totally forgot, I'll amend that post. Thanks for the clarification!

It's definitely sounds mono, maybe check the settings? Have a listen on phones, there's no width at all.

Yes I agree it has the right vibe, you are using a longer decay so the BAM would definitely do it and probably better seeing as it's a specialist reverb unit with oldschool vibe.

I programmed your beat and ran through the BAM room setting. Not sure if you are doing any EQ, or if the Yocto is that much different than the TR-808, but no EQ on this recording.

Yeah, I'm EQing/Compressing the snare, slight EQ/No comp on the kick. The Bam I can hear is better, I'll put it on my wants list...thanks!

Could it be the reverb is only sent/return in mono that sounds mono?

Yes that will be it. You could send it in mono without any issues but would definitely be better to return it in stereo.

Btw my 808 is Wave Alchemy Revolution if anyone was wondering

Right, will do that, got more mono cables in the loft, cheers.

These Bams are £449, so it won't be soon I'll get one, maybe later in the year/next year. None secondhand so they must be good!

I always thought the WA sounded good, I bought the 808/909 early revision - I just wanted a proper hardware analog 808(Yocto) for the experience of it...

their stuff sounds great, the interfaces are terrible but manageable, but it was all the OTO/Owl symbolism stuff that made me sell mine. Spirit and vibe matters and i couldn't use them anymore because of it.

“The owls are not what they seem.”

Jealous.


I was thinking about getting a BIM to go with my BAM this year but in the end I've allocated all of my spare income for the forseeable future to getting parts and an enclosure to build a Kijimi next winter (already have he PCBs on the way).

Linstrument + Kijimi + BAM is worth eating Cheerios for dinner for a long time.

TBH i have been quite disappointed with the BIM. I cannot recommend it in its current state for the price asked. Too bad because it sounds really really good but there are important problems with it (for me anyway).

1-Doesnt like high frequencies at all and because of that there are very annoying digital artifacts (loud pop and click) when using sounds with high freq content. It does happen mostly using pad sounds with the filter full open at higher notes. I did not expected this and will probably return it.

2- The freeze function is cool but its hard not to get clicks when using this function. There is no fade in / out so ... hard to use imo.

3- kinda buggy with midi if you use automation.

Otherwise an amazing delay if you dont mind those things.

How about using my brand new Impulse Response from the mighty Sony DRE-2000?
http://www.swissdoc.de/download/amaz..._Responses.zip

Cheers - just downloaded, can you use these just like samples and layer? I liked the second from last the most. huge static sounding crack at the beginning of each - I've never noticed that crack/static sound on a reverb like that before. Sorry I'm new to IR and usually use a reverb plugin or hardware Lexicon MX200/Behringer FX2000.

You need some convolution VST, like Altiverb or the Knufinke SIR stuff:

Current version
https://www.siraudiotools.com/SIR3.php

Old version as freeware
https://www.siraudiotools.com/sir1.php

Same DAW have such convolution VSTs bundled in.