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Yamaha MODX Keyboard Synthesizers
Old 10th September 2018
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Yamaha MODX

Haven't seen thread or post on this yet, so...

Yamaha releases a successor to MOXF line, named MODX. It's based on Montage (just like earlier MO keyboards were based on Motifs) and that means - FM-X engine in more affordable package at last!

The New MODX Keyboard From Yamaha – Raising the bar for mid-range synths. – yamahamusicians.com

Will it become new SY77?

BTW - the name has some clever wordplay in it - MO + DX
Old 10th September 2018
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I collected funds for Behringer OB-X, but the Yamaha MOXD6 can be my next purchase.
It is a pity that there is no chance of montage in rack, because I hardly have room for a keyboard.
Old 10th September 2018
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Same engine specs as the Montage, guess it will make the Montage redundant as the Montage so expensive.
Old 10th September 2018
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28 note polyphony for AWM2? That's gotta be a typo.
Old 10th September 2018
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Yeah, looks like missing "1" in front of it. 28 voices - wasn't that the original General Midi specification?
Old 10th September 2018
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Eh, I see that there is still no VST editor for Montage, so it probably will not be for MOXD. This was a big advantage for me in the XS, XF series. My GAS has significantly decreased.

Does anyone have experience editing AWM2 and FM sounds from the Montage screen?
The uncomfortable GUI was the reason I gave up FA-06.
Old 10th September 2018
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Does anyone have experience editing AWM2 and FM sounds from the Montage screen?
The uncomfortable GUI was the reason I gave up FA-06.
I never had the FA-06, but did have its predecessor, the Fantom G. And I now have a Montage, which I find a lot better to edit on than the Fantom G - which always had a pretty but somehow klunky look-n-feel (albeit nowhere near as annoying to me as the far more powerful Kronos).

As always, there's a method to some of the things that appear maddening, and in the Montage's case, that means learning which of the buttons and knobs work with the on-screen choices to make shortcuts. Once learned, it's a lot quicker to move around. Note that the MODX lacks quite a lot of the Montage's buttons, so this may not be as true.

If Yamaha puts a proper Motif-type sequencer into the MODX, there will be screams of betrayal from a lot of Montage owners!
Old 10th September 2018
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It doesn't look like it's going to have sequencer.
Old 10th September 2018
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This should be interesting.

There have been a number of people on here saying they'd like an affordable FM-X synth... well, here it is. 64 note polyphony for the FM-X side and £1399 for the 76-note version.

In reality, I guess it'll get dismissed as a "rompler".
Old 10th September 2018
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A Comparison of specs (for the time being):

Yamaha MODX vs Yamaha Montage - YamahaMusicians.com
Old 10th September 2018
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It doesn't look like it's going to have sequencer.
This makes me sad.

Even so, if this gets in at under $1500 for the 76-key version, and the D/A convertors are decent ... I'm in. (Assuming something more awesome does not come along around NAMM time)
Old 10th September 2018
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i recall playing moxf and motif xf, and it struck me that XF line had better, more open converters. moxf was slightly less detailed for similar sounds.

i hope this substantial difference in price range won't translate to MODX also having (comparably) subpar conversion. other than that, think a cheaper version of montage with FM-X is a superb idea.
Old 10th September 2018
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They appear remarkably similar in functionality considering the big price difference. Moving many of the buttons to the touchscreen may pose a potential usability issue for some and reducing the number of real-time controllers could be limiting in a performance scenario.
But it does seem to be all of the synthesis goodness under the hood.

It would have been cool to trade the AWM for a VA though.

Perhaps Korg will follow the example and put out a Mod-7 based synth without all the bloat of the Kronos.
Old 10th September 2018
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It would have been cool to trade the AWM for a VA though.
Or, cross out the MO and leave just DX - meaning, FM-only keyboard.
Old 10th September 2018
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Or, cross out the MO and leave just DX - meaning, FM-only keyboard.
Why is it that this should seem such a radical notion

I’d buy it!
Old 10th September 2018
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The leak mentioned motion sequencing. So I’m glad that’s still on board, it’s the main draw for me really.

Yeah I think I’ll wait until a year after this is out and snag one second hand.
Old 10th September 2018
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I'm probably buying this, but no sequencer on board (or crippled, as on the Montage) really sucks.
Old 10th September 2018
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This looks great. I'd need it in a rack module to fit tho
Old 10th September 2018
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I'm probably buying this, but no sequencer on board (or crippled, as on the Montage) really sucks.
Does it really suck or is it more of something that is just barely disappointing?

Reading your signature...how many sequencers does one person need? Wait! Don't answer that.
ALL THE SEQUENCERS
Old 10th September 2018
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I'm probably buying this, but no sequencer on board (or crippled, as on the Montage) really sucks.
Agreed. It's a shame, because I always thought Yamaha did a nice job with sequencers too.

Nice to see a less expensive version of the Montage on the market though.
Old 10th September 2018
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This is looking good, shame I wont be buying, as no room for anything with keys.
Old 11th September 2018
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I would love to see this in a 49 key package. Why not, Yamaha?
Old 11th September 2018
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Hm ..only 13 effects ..that seems a bit sparse
Old 11th September 2018
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Hm ..only 13 effects ..that seems a bit sparse
The fx are dual: The New MODX Keyboard From Yamaha – Raising the bar for mid-range synths. – yamahamusicians.com

"....13 dual insert effects (12 Parts + A/D Input)..."

Most everything about it sounds pretty good.

Two deal breakers for me though - no aftertouch and no release velocity.

And no room for another keyboard without those features.
Old 11th September 2018
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Same engine specs as the Montage, guess it will make the Montage redundant as the Montage so expensive.
Engine specs yes.
What's different is mainly hardware - half the sliders, half the knobs, a whole section of buttons on the right side that have been transferred to the touch screen, no ribbon.

I'm sure there will be other differences when it's actually announced and the specs/manual are available.
Old 11th September 2018
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Two deal breakers for me though - no aftertouch and no release velocity.
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Does it respond to them?

They should have made it a module then. Same policy for me, no aftertouch, no room at the inn
Old 11th September 2018
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Does it respond to them?

They should have made it a module then. Same policy for me, no aftertouch, no room at the inn
The lack of aftertouch is a really big downer, but I assume it responds to after touch.

Frankly, I wish they would ditch the keyboard, and make a knobby module. The Peak shows buyers will go with this form factor. That would be wicked.
Old 11th September 2018
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Finally a synth that can play my masterpiece “sonata for 10,239 arpeggios“
Old 11th September 2018
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Does it respond to them?

They should have made it a module then. Same policy for me, no aftertouch, no room at the inn

No manual available yet. I just read about no aftertouch on another forum.

Yes - a module would have been better. Maybe they can cram all that stuff into one.
Old 11th September 2018
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