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The ‘SEM’ sound..? Keyboard Synthesizers
Old 3 weeks ago
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tok
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But but don’t all oberheim sem pros get autographed by Tom oberheim
Old 3 weeks ago
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It’s not a remake. It’s the resurrection of the same old design by the original maker. A true recreation.
FWIW, I bought a patch panel version and compared it to a pair of OG SEMs here. I found it easier to make them sound completely different than to make them sound the same. I could dial in the same sound triggering them at a specific key, but as I sequenced them up and down the octaves the differences were fairly clear.

Main differences I noticed when they were sequenced were the envelope responses and the way the filter cutoff and resonance sounded.

Others may not notice/care. Just posting my particular observations with these SEMs.
Old 3 weeks ago
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i have the old one and tested the new one. and agree with the above, old one is snappier. also their resonance level as function of cutoff point is different, which leads to a slightly different filter character:

when you turn the resonance to the max, and have cutoff at the max too, and then start turning the cutoff downwards you of course hear the pitch of the self oscillation going down. now, with both version, at a certain point nearing bass range, the resonance peak "dies out" i.e. gets attenuated. which is normal. however, on the original sem you get an extra octave and a half towards bottom. tests on vintagesynth confirm this too.

finally the top end harshness of the new ones:

New Oberheim SEM vs Original SEM
Old 3 weeks ago
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Just once!

Just once the new version of something should sound better.

It’s strange the universe doesn’t work that way.

Ever.
Old 3 weeks ago
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Would you rather have a new SEM pro or a UB-xa if it matched an Ob-xa?

I’m gassy
Old 3 weeks ago
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Just once!

Just once the new version of something should sound better.

It’s strange the universe doesn’t work that way.

Ever.
The new SEM is an excellent sounding monosynth. I actually thought about keeping it as another flavor, but ended deciding to get something completely different.
Old 3 weeks ago
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Would you rather have a new SEM pro or a UB-xa if it matched an Ob-xa?

I’m gassy
In short: If you want the maximum Oberheim sound get a SEM. If you need polyphony get a poly Oberheim.

Let reason win over marketing hype.

To this point the UB-xa only exists as data on the internet. The UN-xa, as the name suggestest, is based on the OB-XA, a CEM based synth. The SEM sounds quite different then all Oberheim polysynth. The closest is the OB-X, it's filters were directly derived from the SEM. Still one voice OB-X is far off to a SEM.
Obviously on a polysynth you want your sound to be fat, but somehow controlled in order not to have a big detuned, smeary mess.
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The new SEM is an excellent sounding monosynth. I actually thought about keeping it as another flavor, but ended deciding to get something completely different.
Please feel free to pass, on purchasing whatever new SEMs are out there on the open market. Really.
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