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Old 20th January 2018
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What is a good trade that goes with music?

Well I was originally going to go to audio engineering school in Vancouver (Nimbus), but then I thought maybe it's wisest to do a trade so I could pay for it. But maybe not? I was thinking electrical (Electronics & Computer Engineering Technology - Renewable Energy - Camosun College), but then I was thinking how many times will I run into a situation where I will have to use these skills? Then I thought what kinds of situations would I run into that a trade in general would be handy to have?

Maybe I am thinking this all wrong. Maybe what I need to do is digital art, where artists are constantly needing logo's and album art done... Or maybe a website designer? Nah maybe not that because most people use social media platforms these days... Or not?

What are your thoughts?
Old 20th January 2018
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Old 20th January 2018
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I got my red seal in carpentry at BCIT and the years of being a carpenter (before, during, and after I was certified) certainly made it easy to make money and gave me the freedom to take plenty of time off for festivals etc.

I left the city for a small town (Powell River represent) 6 years ago, and though my city friends were convinced I would starve, I quickly found there was just as much work here for the trades (and somewhat counter intuitively I made more money as I just worked for myself instead of a big city contractor so there was no middle man).

Anywhere I've traveled and happened to mention that I'm a carpenter (everywhere from Saltspring to El Salvador) quickly leads to the person asking if I'm looking for work. Basically, endless work if you want it.

That being said, 12 years of carpentry took a toll on my body so I've recently transitioned into being a mental health support worker. Also tons of work, and easy on the body. Fascinating too.

But yeah, trades go well with the arts. The other trade I'd consider is electrical as they make more $$ for less back breaking work, but most sparkies I know run from job to job all day long which would drive me crazy.
Old 20th January 2018
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Sell a pound, buy an OB6.

Old 20th January 2018
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I often see people trying to trade video games for guitar pedals.
Old 20th January 2018
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Old 20th January 2018
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I know someone who went to Nimbus. Was something like $40k a year at least?

He graduated but ended up doing construction after lol

Vancouver has a huge film presence. Maybe do something in that field? Could work as an on-set audio operator.
Old 20th January 2018
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Networking is good, always work in this and can assist your somewhat in audio later on, you know digital desks with wifi n all
Do something that you think would be a cross path to your newer career

I start SAE next moth, not cheap 25K per year, after 2 years I will still be asking q's here. My current skills? I am merely handsome and go on my looks
Old 20th January 2018
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Something that pays a lot with a good amount of time off...
Old 20th January 2018
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Something that pays a lot with a good amount of time off...
Drug dealer was already mentioned I believe...
Old 20th January 2018
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I got my red seal in carpentry at BCIT and the years of being a carpenter (before, during, and after I was certified) certainly made it easy to make money and gave me the freedom to take plenty of time off for festivals etc.

I left the city for a small town (Powell River represent) 6 years ago, and though my city friends were convinced I would starve, I quickly found there was just as much work here for the trades (and somewhat counter intuitively I made more money as I just worked for myself instead of a big city contractor so there was no middle man).

Anywhere I've traveled and happened to mention that I'm a carpenter (everywhere from Saltspring to El Salvador) quickly leads to the person asking if I'm looking for work. Basically, endless work if you want it.

That being said, 12 years of carpentry took a toll on my body so I've recently transitioned into being a mental health support worker. Also tons of work, and easy on the body. Fascinating too.

But yeah, trades go well with the arts. The other trade I'd consider is electrical as they make more $$ for less back breaking work, but most sparkies I know run from job to job all day long which would drive me crazy.
this was what i was going to say, carpenter. f*** being a waiter.
electricians also make loads of money, but there's always the risk
of blowing yourself up, so it's a bit stressful.

there's a counterpoint thing going on with these: one balances the
other out, by keeping you grounded. but i think ultimately staying
within an adjacent industry would be more rewarding and lead to
less frustration. any building trade, you'll be surrounded by people
who don't give a s*** about your passion, and think you're an airhead.
oh and being a fitter is probably better paid cleaner work than making
anything.
Old 20th January 2018
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What about hairstylist, something you can keep up with the trends and the local gossip?
Old 20th January 2018
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Seriously though, I'd study marketing. It's so difficult to get noticed nowadays, with literally thousands of electronic music releases every day (and that doesn't even include free stuff from SC and such). Knowing how marketing works would be very useful...
Old 20th January 2018
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Honestly, I think you should just look for a career that you think will be fulfilling and pay you enough money to live on. That said in my younger years I was a bookkeeper and new a surprising amount of people in bands who were also bookkeepers.
Old 20th January 2018
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I can recommend you don't become a social worker. Come home, brain frazzled, stare at computer = creativity low.

Seems like a lot of people do graphic design/web design who also do music.
Old 20th January 2018
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I think being an electrician can be a good career. Getting started probably varies a bit depending on location. Here, initial training and apprenticeship is probably a bit of a reward-less grind.

If you have any major industries in your area, it can be good to align with one, to get your first few years of experience. Things like mining, oil and gas, power generation and distribution, construction, building services etc.

Electricians can train and specialise in control systems; electrical installations, basic programming, trouble shooting, wiring, maintenance etc. Can be good if you can get involved with resources or power systems control. Even if you don't remain in those industries, it can be really good money for a few years, to set yourself up for self employed domestic work.

A lot of domestic work is quite rudimentary, and pays well if you work for yourself. You would first need to earn the money for vehicle, equipment, parts, materials, license, insurance, etc.

I know a few people who have done this, and earned more money, faster, doing easier work, than I ever did as an engineer.
Old 20th January 2018
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Firstly, I applaud your foresight. I have known many music students who have never given much thought to making a proper wage.

Another vote for electrician, or electrical engineer. I am not one, but I have musician friends who do it and enjoy it. And it definitely fits in with electronic music (for obvious reasons). And it's decent money.

Never be ashamed of having a day job and being passionate about music. Sometimes its interesting to consider successful musicians who spent years in other careers. Of the following, note that these were all their main occupations, at least for some period of their lives. And many of the following were broadly successful in their non-musical jobs, and all of the following worked at these jobs while also seriously working in music:

* Vivaldi (priest/orphanage worker)

* Borodin (a chemist who made some important discoveries/publications)

* Philip Glass (cab driver, plumber)

* Charles Ives (insurance execuitve, very financially successful)

* Xenakis (architect - google his buildings!)

* John Cage (graphic designer)

* Holst (school teacher)

* Art Garfunkel (academic / mathematician)

* Ian Curtis of Joy Division (unemployment officer)

* Eric Whitacre (model. . . no surprises there)

Not to mention all the musicians (no doubt the vast majority) who had regular jobs before they were able to commit full time to music, like Eddie Vedder who worked as a security guard, or Kurt Cobain who was a janitor (yes, maybe that has something to do with that film clip. . . )

Also not to mention musicians who supplement by teaching music () or are in related fields (eg festival management, admin, agencies, etc, etc). Contrary to popular opinion, most of us make a good go of it and find it quite satisfying.
Old 20th January 2018
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Plasterer - I did a weeks course and did my own house for practice before jumping straight in self employed- tons of work, high wages, pick and choose my jobs. Pretty much ran it out the back of a car. Was able to work 2 weeks out of a month to hit my previous salary. Keeps you fit (lost 2 stone in a year) so wife was happier too

Hammer it for 6 months and live on beans and you can make a fortune.

Only downside was I did it too late in life and started to develop back problems so I’ve switched to painting and decorating which is a little less well paid but less stress which is top priority for me.
Old 20th January 2018
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Get into sales, marketing, etc. performance based jobs or jobs where you have clients and there are future self employment opportunities once you get the hang of it.

Many musical/creative types can’t do it, but if you are equally right brain/left brain it can work out well.
Old 20th January 2018
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2 points

1. What do you love doing?

2. What are you naturally talented at?

Choose something with a mixture of 1 and 2... anything else will depress you and stifle creativity
Old 20th January 2018
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something with computers or finance
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Quote:
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Well I was originally going to go to audio engineering school in Vancouver (Nimbus), but then I thought maybe it's wisest to do a trade so I could pay for it. But maybe not? I was thinking electrical (Electronics & Computer Engineering Technology - Renewable Energy - Camosun College), but then I was thinking how many times will I run into a situation where I will have to use these skills? Then I thought what kinds of situations would I run into that a trade in general would be handy to have?

Maybe I am thinking this all wrong. Maybe what I need to do is digital art, where artists are constantly needing logo's and album art done... Or maybe a website designer? Nah maybe not that because most people use social media platforms these days... Or not?

What are your thoughts?
How old are you and do you currently hold a degree or any certificates? Do you have any aptitude for math and/or programming?
Old 20th January 2018
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How old are you and do you currently hold a degree or any certificates? Do you have any aptitude for math and/or programming?
+1 for software engineering; learn to program at a reasonable level and you'll be able to feed yourself for years.
Old 20th January 2018
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If you want certainty for work in the future, go work in a sector which will always exist :

Anything related to elderly people
Anything related to children
Anything related to the funeral business
Anything related to cars
Anything related to houses
Anything related to computers indeed
etc.
Old 20th January 2018
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Why do you want to go to audio engineering school? To learn about making records for yourself, or to have a career in audio engineering, or both? (or something else) A lot depends on how truly engaged and passionate you are about making music production your career path. It is a challenging industry, to say the least; but many people still make money making music.

OTOH - It's definitely possible to have a completely unrelated career and still have fun making great music - and get paid too. I can vouch for it. Your path is what you want it to be.
Old 21st January 2018
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I would say not software engineering or anything that involves a computer 8+ hours a day. Unless you want to work completely out of the box, my experience is sitting down more in front of a computer with a DAW becomes a bit of a turn off. Still do it though...
Old 21st January 2018
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+1 for software engineering; learn to program at a reasonable level and you'll be able to feed yourself for years.
This *100. I have an BA in Pilosophy, a MFA in screenwriting, and am pursuing a PhD in math, but since I know how to program (something I never actually studied) I make a moderately prosperous and stable living as a programmer.
Old 21st January 2018
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I have a buddy in Pest Control and he's making a killing.
Old 21st January 2018
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OK, I have thought about this for a long time - here is the deal, I have it all figured out. Pay close attention, its kinda complicated:

You need to rig your car with a razor sharp blade right at neck level, and a big ice chest in the back seat. Next, fill out your organ donor card to say, “Brain only” Now get in your car and call 911 - tell them there has been a horrible accident at your current location. Now: crash really hard and fast into a wall - it must be straight on so you get a nice clean cut. Your head will be severed and will then fall into the ice chest where the coolness will preserve the meat. The paramedics will arrive ‘toute de suite’ and will rush your preserved head back to the hospital. At the hospital there will be a patient desperate for a brain transplant. You see - its actually a trick… the other guy thinks he’s getting a new brain but in reality you are getting his body! Bam! Anyone who can afford a brain transplant has got to be rich so - poof, there it is! Now you have your brain in a rich guys body. Spend all his money on gear (it is your money now), and be a rich musician who never has to work.

Once you have this all worked out please remember who you got the idea from and buy me a beer or a DAFM or something. Peace.
Old 21st January 2018
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I would say not software engineering or anything that involves a computer 8+ hours a day. Unless you want to work completely out of the box, my experience is sitting down more in front of a computer with a DAW becomes a bit of a turn off. Still do it though...
Exactly - but I'd take a DAW-less world over spreading drywall joint compound for a living (done both).
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