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Originally Posted by
crystalmsc
This sounds really interesting, I always like the effects in there. Hated vintage reverb many years ago, but a big fan now. Is it really this type of goodness in there? Would love to hear more about the similarities

The breakdown is basically like this:
SRV-2000 (1985): Roland's first digital reverb, 16k memory, sample rate is about 24-25 kHz, it's pretty good quality with a respectable number of early reflection taps, but sounds a bit metallic due to the limited delay memory.
DEP-5 (1986): This seems to be a more advanced but less expensive variant of the SRV-2000. 64k memory, sample rate is 32 kHz. It can't be edited as deeply, but I think the algorithms are very similar. The expanded memory allows for larger and less metallic reverb algorithms, and it also has knobs and adds a separate IC for chorus and modulation effects.
DEP-3: Cheaper DEP-5, omits chorus IC, 16k memory.
D-50 (1987): Basic preset effects only, 16k memory, sample rate is 32 kHz. It uses a chorus IC that's different from the one in the DEP-5. This allows for two independent chorus effects. I think the arrangement of the effect blocks might be different too. The D-50 seems to be chorus -> reverb and the DEP-5 is apparently reverb -> chorus
There's not a direct equivalent to the D-50's effects, but the DEP-5 is fairly close and in some ways better.
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Originally Posted by
TOYZ
I seem to remember reading that the D-50's TVF (Time Variant Filter) could be applied to all waveforms including PCM waveforms whereas on my D-10 it would only work on the sawtooth/pulse.
No, it's not actually a real filter at all. It seems to be more like the resonant waveforms in the Casio CZ series. The pulse waveform and TVF are synthesized together, and the saw wave is derived from the pulse wave. There's no way to filter the PCM waveforms.
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Originally Posted by
xanderbeanz
Are you saying that with no effects on, the D50 and D10 are tonally the same and the only real difference is the wave ROM?
Is this D10 hatred: “I swear it’s muddier!” “The D50 sounds miles better!” a massive GROUP DELUSION? Perhaps brought about by the 10’s awful UI, or simply one person said it sucked and then everyone bought into it?
The D110's lack of modulation really sucks too. If you did a real apples-to-apples comparison, i.e. a TVF sweep on a square wave, they should be very similar. But the contribution of the D50's LFOs, effects, EQ and waveform ROM are not insignificant. PWM in particular really adds a lot.
I think the D110 also has a couple structures that aren't available in the D50.