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Dave Smith and Tom Oberheim OB6
Old 10th August 2019
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My OB6 arrived yesterday and it had the same creaking noise. Some of the side plate screws were loose as well (no biggie).

Unfortunately, I don't love the sound and will promptly exchange for a P6. It's a thrill to play, but it doesn't work with any of my music. I spent most of the night trying to program the OB6 out of my OB6.

Lesson learned: Trust your research, not the crowd.
Why not give it the 30day treatment it’s already in your studio, who knows?
Old 10th August 2019
  #5792
My OB-6 module is rock solid. Probably the best build quality of all the synths I have when talking knobs and buttons etc...

O.T.

The P6 has the AS-1. Why no mono version of the OB? Maybe they didn't want to tread into Sem territory when they were still being made?

Seems like a missed opportunity.
Old 11th August 2019
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Unfortunately, I don't love the sound and will promptly exchange for a P6. It's a thrill to play, but it doesn't work with any of my songs.
Had the same... bought a P6 and an OB6 with the intention of putting them against each other. The P6 won by miles for me. Love the OB6 in principle but not in reality.
Old 11th August 2019
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I landed on the other side of the ball hair and got the P6. I'm trying to think of some other testicular wordplay to say I'm still itching to get the OB6 too .... no, nothing. Sorry. Actually, does itching work?
I think they both belong in the same baw sack
Old 11th August 2019
  #5795
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Originally Posted by h0lden View Post
My OB6 arrived yesterday and it had the same creaking noise. Some of the side plate screws were loose as well (no biggie).

Unfortunately, I don't love the sound and will promptly exchange for a P6. It's a thrill to play, but it doesn't work with any of my songs. I spent most of the night trying to program the OB6 out of my OB6!

Lesson learned: Trust your research, not the crowd.
Its a distinct sound you have to be after. Its definitely a flavour synth. Im buying some outboard just now but I can see a P6 in my future.
Old 12th August 2019
  #5796
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Why not give it the 30day treatment it’s already in your studio, who knows?
So I revisited my store today and tested the ob6 and p6 they had on the floor - both had a lot of lateral flex and made creaking noises when flexed, so I guess it’s just how they are. Not a problem once flat on a desk so no big deal.

In any event, I am LOVING the sound of the OB6 - exactly the vintage sugary sound I’ve been after in a poly
Old 12th August 2019
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Its a distinct sound you have to be after. Its definitely a flavour synth. Im buying some outboard just now but I can see a P6 in my future.
I made a comment that it sounded like 1984 rust, or something like that.
Old 12th August 2019
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I made a comment that it sounded like 1984 rust, or something like that.
Thats a good description lol, its definitely not of this century.
Old 12th August 2019
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I’ve been shopping for an analog poly for several years, I just couldn’t decide. The OB6 is the sound I am most attracted to, but I was afraid that it wouldn’t be versatile enough. I decided I don’t care, I like the sound of it so much. It’s a joy to play. So after spending several months pondering P6? OB6? P6? OB6? I am getting an OB6. Now I will spend a couple of months sweating over keys? desktop? keys? desktop?
Old 12th August 2019
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I’ve been shopping for an analog poly for several years, I just couldn’t decide. The OB6 is the sound I am most attracted to, but I was afraid that it wouldn’t be versatile enough. I decided I don’t care, I like the sound of it so much. It’s a joy to play. So after spending several months pondering P6? OB6? P6? OB6? I am getting an OB6. Now I will spend a couple of months sweating over keys? desktop? keys? desktop?
Try to see the desktop in person before you make the decision.

I know some people will disagree with me, but I think the keyboard is smaller than it should be, and the desktop is larger than it should be. I’d recommend the keyboard in a heartbeat for the versatility/portability it offers to a travelling keyboardist.

The desktop is so huge there would be no room on my desk for it, so I would have to put it on a keyboard stand anyway, so it might as well have keys!
Old 12th August 2019
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Try to see the desktop in person before you make the decision.

I know some people will disagree with me, but I think the keyboard is smaller than it should be, and the desktop is larger than it should be. I’d recommend the keyboard in a heartbeat for the versatility/portability it offers to a travelling keyboardist.

The desktop is so huge there would be no room on my desk for it, so I would have to put it on a keyboard stand anyway, so it might as well have keys!
Interesting! I’ve not seen the desktop in person, I’ve only played the keys. Thanks for the heads up, I will check it out.
Old 12th August 2019
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Interesting! I’ve not seen the desktop in person, I’ve only played the keys. Thanks for the heads up, I will check it out.
I have always preferred keyboards to oversized modules. I remember seeing Nick Batt's review of the OB-6 module, and I think it was the placibo of it being a module that made me not want to not like it. It is rather large and as mentioned above the OB-6 keyboard is such a convenient size, I see no reason for the module.

I just got an MS2000BR, and I think I may swap it for the keyboard version. I have always had a problem with racks and modules as I don't feel so attached to them when playing. (I think that's quite a common notion). I realise its no different, but theres definitely something better about feeling more connected to the instrument, even if it is a placebo
Old 12th August 2019
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OB 6+6

Some perspective on the size proportions between the Keyboard and Module.


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Interesting! I’ve not seen the desktop in person, I’ve only played the keys. Thanks for the heads up, I will check it out.
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Old 12th August 2019
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I know some people will disagree with me, but I think the keyboard is smaller than it should be, and the desktop is larger than it should be.
I know what you mean. The keyboard has better proportions and feels nicer to use. Still useful to save some cash and space with the module though...
Old 12th August 2019
  #5805
Yeah but a $700 premium for it to have a keyboard and a larger case? That, by itself, is almost as much as a new Moog Sub Phatty or a used GM.
Old 12th August 2019
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Yeah but a $700 premium for it to have a keyboard and a larger case? That, by itself, is almost as much as a new Moog Sub Phatty or a used GM.
And more stripes

(Even though it wouldn't seriously affect my decision to own one, I think the module looks odd with only a few stripes and all that empty space)
Old 12th August 2019
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Some perspective on the size proportions between the Keyboard and Module.
Thanks for sharing, but that shot does a terrible job of illustrating the size of the module, due to the depth of field on the lens. It makes the module look much smaller than it is. With the camera you’re using, you would need to lay them both in a table or floor and take a shot from above.

As it is, the module looks tiny in your shot until you follow the depth lines out, and you realize the module is about the width of 3.5 octaves of keyboard and therefore it must be proportionally taller too.
Old 12th August 2019
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Thanks for sharing, but that shot does a terrible job of illustrating the size of the module, due to the depth of field on the lens. It makes the module look much smaller than it is. With the camera you’re using, you would need to lay them both in a table or floor and take a shot from above.

As it is, the module looks tiny in your shot until you follow the depth lines out, and you realize the module is about the width of 3.5 octaves of keyboard and therefore it must be proportionally taller too.
Well, 'tis what it 'tis. Perspective is part of our visual reality. You just need to make mental (visual) adjustments as you have, using frames of reference. That above pic shows what it looks like to sit in front of a 6+6 rig. Note, the Keys are slightly angled up in the back, as there are two large rubber wedges under the rear backside - which is sort of like moving the camera a little above a flat lying synth, if you follow. ;-)

Here's another angle which makes the Module look a little bigger.

At 20.75" W the Module is 10.55" narrower than the Keys, which leaves 5.275" on each side. It is actually 1-1/2" narrower than the Prophet-6 Module, but a little beefier in depth, and same height.


I've since added the OB LFE to the 6+6 rig (although haven't had a chance to really use it yet). But, what a fantastic unit from Channelizer!. The LFE and Module are aligned on Odyssey L360 stands behind the Keys and overhang about 1" on each side... looks sweet and very ergo.
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Old 12th August 2019
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I’ve been shopping for an analog poly for several years, I just couldn’t decide. The OB6 is the sound I am most attracted to, but I was afraid that it wouldn’t be versatile enough. I decided I don’t care, I like the sound of it so much. It’s a joy to play. So after spending several months pondering P6? OB6? P6? OB6? I am getting an OB6. Now I will spend a couple of months sweating over keys? desktop? keys? desktop?
I will give my little two cents, I think you will love it, and if you can stand four octaves I would say deffinetly get the keys, I'm not sure if you have other instruments that cost three grand, but if not then get the keys, you will love it more and bond with it more and it will feel more like the complete instrument that it is. Also, I think you will find it is much more versatile than you think at first, it will show you that you can do sooooo much with a synth even with one lfo if the maker opens up the architecture to so much audio rate modulation options and bipoler attenuverters for the envelopes.. and the envelopes are modeled after original Oberheim envelopes aswell.. you will love it, it's a massive synth.
Old 13th August 2019
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Wow, thank you for the advices everybody! The desktop version looks quite large.
@ string6theory - That picture of both the keyboard and the desktop is beautiful.
and Kja, thanks for that encouraging post. So nice.
Old 13th August 2019
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IMO.. get the desktop. There are a couple of important reasons. 1. You can pair it with a 61 key controller and have an extra octave. Go bigger if you want - you're not limited to 4 octaves. 2. With a controller than supports NRPN - you can map Sequence and Arp start/stops.. and use both at the same time. (This isn't something you can do with the keyboard version). 3. Wait .. that's more than two. But three -- if you pair it with something like a Novation SL.. you can map in Sequences which fire off OB sequences. Arps too. Desktop + SL = same price as the keyed version.

More on the OB-> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2s063vn2p9...01.0.docx?dl=0
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Old 13th August 2019
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IMO.. get the desktop. There are a couple of important reasons. 1. You can pair it with a 61 key controller and have an extra octave. Go bigger if you want - you're not limited to 4 octaves. 2. With a controller than supports NRPN - you can map Sequence and Arp start/stops.. and use both at the same time. (This isn't something you can do with the keyboard version). 3. Wait .. that's more than two. But three -- if you pair it with something like a Novation SL.. you can map in Sequences which fire off OB sequences. Arps too. Desktop + SL = same price as the keyed version.

More on the OB-> https://www.dropbox.com/s/2s063vn2p9...01.0.docx?dl=0
I’m going to go back and forth on this for a while, I can tell already.
BTW that doc is fantastic! Much respect. Thank you for that link.
Old 13th August 2019
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I’m going to go back and forth on this for a while, I can tell already.
BTW that doc is fantastic! Much respect. Thank you for that link.
Haha, riding that seesaw is quite normal.

Another vote for the keyboard... it's truly excellent.

+1 on the OB-6 Tips & Tricks link kudos @ JDoo !
Old 13th August 2019
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I often feel like I'm programming with one hand behind my back when working with the OB6, and it often doesn't sit that well in the mix. The mod amounts are much too coarse. All the envelopes etc. are too rigid - regimented and digital rather than a little loose and analogue. Six note poly and 4 octaves isn't great either. But I put up with it's limitations because when it hits the spot, there's no other current modern hw instrument that offers the same tone. It takes external fx extremely well too. It's an instrument I just can't fall in love with, but can't get rid of either.
Old 18th August 2019
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My wife votes for the keyboard version so I think I’ll go with that. They don’t have any in stock nearby, but there’s one in a shop about an hour and a half drive from us. We’re going to make a nice road trip out of it tomorrow so we’ll have a new OB-6 by Monday, which is much sooner than I expected.

I wanted to ask about librarian software for the OB-6. Online I see Sound Tower or MIDI Quest. Edit: I also see one called codeKnobs Synthet. Which do you use and why?

And lastly, I can’t find information on the expression pedal input re voltage, which expression pedals will work with the OB-6?

I’m really looking forward to tomorrow!

Edit again: Tomorrow came and went and we now own an OB-6!
Also, I emailed Sequential and they said both my expression pedals (Mission Engineering SP-25 and Roland EV-5) will work with the OB-6. It's been a good week all around.

Last edited by ljefe; 21st August 2019 at 09:34 AM..
Old 3 weeks ago
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Does anyone know if theres a way to keep the OB-6 from responding to midi transport messages without tuning midi in off entirely?

Every time I hit play on my DAW the OBs sequencer starts and fxxks everything up.
Old 3 weeks ago
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Does anyone know if theres a way to keep the OB-6 from responding to midi transport messages without tuning midi in off entirely?

Every time I hit play on my DAW the OBs sequencer starts and fxxks everything up.
Set MIDI clock to either OFF or “In, No Start/Stop” (n55).
Old 3 weeks ago
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thx mate, I'll try that
Old 2 weeks ago
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I have not used my OB6 desktop for a while, then recently had some time to spend with it. I kept having this problem where it sounded harsh even with modest levels of resonance, and I am thinking it's me not being able to tune the filter properly. It started to drive me crazy so I finally did the recalibration and wow, it's like the sun came out after months of darkness. Sweet spots everywhere now.

Obviously, this isn't mindblowing, but if you find your unit sounding harsher then you recall, don't forget to recalibrate.
Old 2 weeks ago
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I've had this thing for a 3 or 4 days and I'm loving it so far. I love the Oberheim sound, I am not sure why it took me so long to realize it, but I can't get over it.

Anyone know what the phenomenon is on the OB6, it seems like at certain settings, when you audio-rate x-mod the filter frequency, it seems to make a weird LFO/tremelo sound on certain notes where it plays at different low frequencies? (it's not the second osc in LFO mode with key tracking, something else going on). I've heard audio-rate modulation of a filter before but, nothing quite like this. The factory patch 808 showcases what I'm talking about that LFO sound seems to come 100% from the xmod of audio-rate osc 2 on the filter frequency and it seems to use the sub-osc as a main oscillator sound.
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