Looking for cymbals for my studio kit.
Old 12th May 2011
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I bought a Zildjian 'Sweet Ride' for the studio kit's ride cymbal but it wound up being more versatile as a crash/ride.

You can't really hear much definition on it, especially in comparison to a 2002.

Another vote for Paiste.
Old 18th May 2011
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Call me crazy, but I like the AAX series.
The 18" exlosion one sounds amazing. The 16" explosion also sounds good, but it's on the brink of being too small. I have a studio AAX 19" that is too dark compared to them. The hi hats are the cat's meow. I will say the AAX ride sucks though. Currently looking to replace that lol.
Old 19th May 2011
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18" Sabian HHX Evolution crash is nice. I'm tired of the sound of my A Customs.

For character, punch and even some raunch, check out the Dream stuff. I have a 20" Dream Bliss crash and a 16" Dream Energy.

The 20 sounds ferocious, Loud and deep but it can be funky and jazzy if played lightly as a ride. The 16 is the heaviest (in weight, yeah) cymbal I own, bright and cutting but never harsh and it has a character to the sound like no other cymbal I've heard. Can't describe it. Long decay too but not in an obnoxious way. Come to think of it... what a weird, cool cymbal. Also, Dream is ridiculously inexpensive.

I'm just bored with cymbals that sound like what I expect and sound middle of the road.
Old 10th November 2011
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I'm going to get cymbals tomorrow any last words????

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Old 11th November 2011
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I'm going to get cymbals tomorrow any last words????

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Buy whatever sounds good to you, regardless of the name or alloy.
Old 11th November 2011
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That's good advice accept I'm not a drummer and I second guess myself on this purchase. I have some good ideas and I will let you guys know how tomorrow goes.
Old 11th November 2011
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I'm going to get cymbals tomorrow any last words????

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Hey James. We talked a while back when we were both getting our U47w's...

I'm a bit of a cymbal freak and literally have dozens in all shapes and sizes; Zildjian, Paiste, Sabian, Bosphorous, Istanbul Agop, Masterwork, UFIP... it's kind of a sickness actually. As others have said, it's really a matter of taste depending on the vibe and style of music, and IMO it's really about a cymbal's overtones that make it work or not.

I know you do a lot of pretty heavy rock material, and for that my recommendation would be for the Paiste stuff; particularly their dry rides and thin, fast crashes. What I like about them is that they have a nice shimmery high end that cuts without being overly harsh, without a lot of mid freq overtones that can be a struggle to notch or scoop without messing up the sound of the overall kit in the OHs. For a little accent trashy thing, the Sabian HHX are cool as well.

I've found lately that some of the online cymbal sites are really a good way to reference stuff you are interested in, cause you can get a reasonable idea of what a cymbal sounds like when recorded based on a sound file or vid of that actual cymbal. Good luck with it. David

Cymbals at myCymbal.com - We have Zildjian, Paiste, Sabian, Meinl, Bosphorus, Istanbul Agop, Hammerax, Matt Nolan Custom Cymbals, Wuhan, Gongs, Prototypes, Used & Vintage Cymbals
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Old 11th November 2011
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Hey James, I really like the 16", 17", 18", 19" Sabian AAX X-plosions and (fast) Brilliant; Sabian HHX Evolutions 16", 17", 18" sound great. Listen to Dokken, Under Lock and Key, I have always loved those cymbals on that CD! This is the sound I like lately, but not a modern sound. I can't remember, but I thought Mick Brown was playing Sabian HH...not sure though. A little on the darker side with some nice warm wash with cutting belltones in there from middle to end of shimmer. Hard to describe, I just really like this sound.

AAX X-plosion Brilliant 18", a must have for me. Also check out the other sizes, definitely tasty cymbals. Paiste has some nice stuff also, 2002's for rock! Don't leave out the 19", 20" crashes, you never know, sometimes you find an amazing sounding cymbal.

If you have time, I would get a drummer in there with different sets of cymbals. Sabian X-plosions Brilliant,Sabian HHX Evolutions, Sabian HH, Paiste 2002's. Overdub some drum tracks. Not sure if stores are still doing this, but I used to do this years ago, as long as I brought them back with no marks or dents on them. I would get 3 to 4 of each set of crash cymbals, try them out, bring back the ones I didn't like the next day for a refund. Just a verse and chorus with three different types of tunes, fast, medium and ballad...Listen and choose!
Old 11th November 2011
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Spent the afternoon playing and listening to cymbals and went with these:

Zildjian A New Beat 14" HH
Zildjian 21' Medium Ride
Zildjian A 18" Medium Thin Crash
Zildjian A 20" Medium Thin Crash

There was a Paiste and Sabien I liked but they seemed to resonate and sound really different, this combo sounded the best to me, not to bright not to dark. Came back and recorded me playing (which is depressing cause I suck) and seemed to sound really good, I need to get a real player in here asap.
Old 12th November 2011
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i have a number of different Zildjian A's, i have no issues with them at all.
i am always looking for a reason to grab another one: O~
i want some 12'' or 13'' hats next and at some point some 15'' ers.

been loving a flat to and a flat ride lately.
Old 12th November 2011
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Wish I was closer to your studio...Can't go wrong with the new beats HH's. I have some new beats from the late 80's, and some from the mid 90's and they sound so different you would think they are different brands! They both sound great, the ones from the 80's sound drier and they cut through with a very high chick sound. Great for some groovin' funk, or oldies. I use my A custom mastersounds for the more modern rock, pop stuff. Did you get a chance to hear the A series mastersounds/A custom mastersound hi hats? You just can't have enough HH's, rides, or crashes. Congrats on the cymbal purchases, careful, it's addictive.
Old 12th November 2011
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They had a few different sets of new beat hh and they all sounded different, I picked the ones I thought were best to my ears for what I mostly do but again what a hard thing to choose when you're not a drummer. I have a drummer coming by today to play and see how he likes them and how they record.
Old 13th November 2011
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Spent the afternoon playing and listening to cymbals and went with these:

Zildjian A New Beat 14" HH
Zildjian 21' Medium Ride
Zildjian A 18" Medium Thin Crash
Zildjian A 20" Medium Thin Crash
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That should work just fine, James. A's are good stuff.
Old 13th November 2011
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That should work just fine, James. A's are good stuff.
Yeah I think they sit in the middle which I think will be good for me. Not to dark, not to bright. Here's a clip from drum day yesterday:
Old 14th November 2011
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Sounds great James...can't wait to hear those Zildjian A's in a mix!
Old 14th November 2011
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Spent the afternoon playing and listening to cymbals and went with these:

Zildjian A New Beat 14" HH
Zildjian 21' Medium Ride
Zildjian A 18" Medium Thin Crash
Zildjian A 20" Medium Thin Crash

There was a Paiste and Sabien I liked but they seemed to resonate and sound really different, this combo sounded the best to me, not to bright not to dark. Came back and recorded me playing (which is depressing cause I suck) and seemed to sound really good, I need to get a real player in here asap.
Good choice! Those are very nice crashes. I've always had good luck with Zild A's for recording.
Old 14th November 2011
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Good choice! Those are very nice crashes. I've always had good luck with Zild A's for recording.
Cool, I'm excited have my first session Friday.
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