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Gretsch's Catalina Club is THE best drum set I own.
Old 15th August 2012
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Anybody compared the Gretsch maple shells to the Mapex meridian maple shells?
The edges are so different that comparison is difficult, but the rounded edges give Gretsch a rounder, less focused sound. Mapex is much more "modern" sounding.
Old 16th August 2012
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That makes sense.
Old 29th August 2012
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Thats a happening kit!
Old 5th September 2012
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Originally Posted by nimblemongoose View Post
Birch
Are you sure it's birch?

I'm quite interested in these kits, but I can't find a Catalina club kit that's Birch.

There's:

Catalina Club Jazz, but that's mahogany, not birch
Catalina Club Rock, also mahogany and with a 24" kick, not 18"
Catalina Birch, but that has a 22" kick, not an 18"
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I'm confused... which ones do you have?
Old 6th September 2012
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Are you sure it's birch?

I'm quite interested in these kits, but I can't find a Catalina club kit that's Birch.

There's:

Catalina Club Jazz, but that's mahogany, not birch
Catalina Club Rock, also mahogany and with a 24" kick, not 18"
Catalina Birch, but that has a 22" kick, not an 18"
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I'm confused... which ones do you have?
Cool. Seems I've been thinking it's a different wood. It's Mahogany.
Old 6th September 2012
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Well thank you very much, that was EXACTLY the answer I was hoping for

Happy diddles!
Old 6th September 2012
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We're telling about the ~600 dollar Gretsch kits, right?

I just may have to pick one up. How much do the jazz kits go for?

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Old 6th September 2012
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About that price indeed, the Catalina Club Jazz.

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Old 13th September 2012
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Well,

My girlfriend says "is there anything you need to do in town X?".
(she wants a ride i.s.o. having to take the train)
I think for a few seconds...... "I do actually". (adding: "but you're not going to like it..." in my head)
"I'll drive you, baby, no problem."

There's a music store there that stocks the Catalina Club Jazz in White Pearl.
Just the color that would let me get away with mixing it with my New England White Rogers... well sort of anyway.

Will this be my first "don't tell my girlfriend" purchases?
Stay tuned!

Edit: I couldn't lie to her.... it's just not in my blood.
Bought the drums though, if she dares to bring it up I'll counter with "I let you buy the chocolate milk, so I get to buy drums!"
Old 13th September 2012
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Do the Rogers and the Gretsch sound similar?

If your GF even thinks you pulled one over on her.....whether you did or not.....
Old 13th September 2012
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I listened to all this and... bought one. Here it is:



... with its big brother, the Pearl Masters MMP in the background.

Now the Gretsch cost me less than ONE TOM of the Pearl set... Yet it easily holds up to Pearl. AMAZING VALUE. Great as a second kit for the studio.

I changed the tom heads from Gretsch coated to Remo Powerstroke 3 and now the little jazz kit ROCKS Can't wait to try a Powersonic head on the kick.
Old 13th September 2012
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Originally Posted by 2manyrocks View Post
Do the Rogers and the Gretsch sound similar?
They don't sound similar but i'm hoping they mix, so I bought the Catalina in a similar finish.
My Rogers are tuned quite weird so the Catalina will kinda fill in the gaps.

Then it's off to find a 12x24 or something
Old 14th September 2012
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Hmmmm... I just may have to pick up one of these when I get more space. I've always like the cocktail kick type.
Old 14th September 2012
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dear god that sounded great. are the recordings raw?
Old 22nd September 2012
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Still waiting for my coated ambassadors to arrive.
The coated Evans on the tom batters will then move to the bottoms.
Clear bass batter head will also get a coated ambassador.
I'll leave the snare alone for now.
I'll likely post some before and after clips although they'll probably not end up with the same tuning.
Still I'll record the current tuning for my own reference anyway.

Happy diddles!
Old 25th September 2012
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I put the coated ambassadors on the toms and moved the stock coated evans heads to the resonant side. I must say, that acoustically, I kinda prefer the attack the evans heads give. The evans coated heads have a more pronounced, almost plasticky attack, which makes me prefer remo coated heads on snares, but now that I can compare the the two brands on toms I'm kinda digging the evans on batter. A bit more exiting in lower tunings.
I'll see how they record (hopefully tomorrow) and report back.
Having fun with this kit so far!
Old 26th September 2012
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Which type of shells (maple, birch, mah) did you guys pick?

The appearance of the shells of the Pearls v. the Gretsch in the picture is so similar.
Old 26th September 2012
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the catalina club sets have mahogany shells.
Then there's catalina birch and maple.

So mine are mahogany.

Here's some clips.
No EQ or other processing, but it is a blend between OH, FOK and ROOM.
Attached Files

old tom heads.wav (2.27 MB, 2930 views)

new heads take1.wav (1.61 MB, 2704 views)

Old 27th September 2012
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I like the replacement head sound better FWIW.
Old 28th September 2012
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though not always the appropriate sound they may be the best bang for buck kit out there. we had a kit at a studio i worked at that recorded great. try a ribbon angled down on the kick with full front head and no muffling. though i don't own one i've played i think four different kits and they've all sounded great. i had one loaned to me for a couple of weeks not long ago and he had a kick riser pedal thing on the 18" which actually made it much more comfortable.
Old 30th September 2012
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Old 2nd August 2020
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Thread ressurection!!!

I'm looking at getting a Gretsch Catalina Club as an addition to my studio in the 18" 14" 12" Jazz sizes. However I notice that the earlier kits feature a square badge and the more recent kits, a round badge. Did this change in badge symbolise a change to the drums specs/construction or are these exactly the same drums in terms of the wood, bearing edge, drum depths, hoops mounts etc? Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Old 4th August 2020
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Since my previous post I have been in touch with Gretsch and have had a reply from them confirming that nothing changed apart from the badge and that the wood, amount of plys used in the shell construction, bearing edge angles, hoops etc all remained the same.

I have now acquired a Catalina Club in the smaller jazz sizes (18" 16" 14") and although I have yet to give it a full studio workout I am happy with the purchase. One thing though, from what I understand the 'Catalina Club' was only ever produced with mahogany shells and the inside of my drum shells are far lighter in colour than I expected for Mahogany. Have I got this correct?
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