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Old 17th January 2005
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Having Fun Building custom drums for recording etc..

I just built this kit ..I can't wait to record the suckers .3 more sets are on the way
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Old 17th January 2005
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Old 17th January 2005
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wow - nice tubs.

Maybe slightly OT but I've made some really weird kits b4, like one made entirely from cymbals, others with really treated small toms for kicks and, huge hihats, water cooler bottles in trash cans for kicks and aluminium foil for hats, inverted heads on snare and toms, towels over the snares..etc.etc.
Anyone got any interesting nutty kits they made for recording?
Old 17th January 2005
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wow - nice tubs.

Maybe slightly OT but I've made some really weird kits b4, like one made entirely from cymbals, others with really treated small toms for kicks and, huge hihats, water cooler bottles in trash cans for kicks and aluminium foil for hats, inverted heads on snare and toms, towels over the snares..etc.etc.
Anyone got any interesting nutty kits they made for recording?
Yes thats always fun ..Sometimes when I'm bored ,I just mike the room stereo and play whatevers laying around ...walls chairs,peoples heads.. bathtub ...the cat ..whatever!! ..It's fun
Old 18th January 2005
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Nice!
What are the sizes?
Hard to tell from the pics, but my guess would be...
12, 14, toms... Maybe 20 kick?
Also, what make are the shells?

Andrew
Old 18th January 2005
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Come on over!!

Looks nice. Have you tried the new Keller "vintage" shells?
Old 18th January 2005
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Thanks guys...the shells are the new keller VSS series.it's basically a process involving harder glue.
I've got some of the vintage mahoganys on order from my distributor in LA. sizes are indeed 12,14,20x17. so far they sound great.loud,warm/ focused with loads O' sustian I compared them to a vintage ludwig,gretsch and new dw kits-I'm very happy! .I'm gonna tweak and experiment with various bearing edge types-dual 45 degree, 45 degree/roundover 30/roundover[ala gretsch] 60 degree /roundover [bass drums ala porkpie] etc this week !
Old 25th January 2005
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Studio and drums look great!
Congrats!

What are you using for snare drum(s)?
Have you tried the Brady stuff?
Old 25th January 2005
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Thanks pitman! snares: ...Craviotto,brady,dunnett,gretsch,ludwig,drum paradise, drum doctors etc..
Old 26th January 2005
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Originally posted by drmmrboy
Nice!
What are the sizes?
Hard to tell from the pics, but my guess would be...
12, 14, toms... Maybe 20 kick?
Also, what make are the shells?

Andrew
Yes 12,14 17x20 The new Keller "VSS" shells
Old 26th January 2005
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Thanks pitman! snares: ...Craviotto,brady,dunnett,gretsch,ludwig,drum paradise, drum doctors etc..
How does the Craviotto stack up next to the Brady?
I've played a Brady and thought it was outstanding.
I'm not familar with Dunnet.
Old 26th January 2005
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Very pretty, Roundbadge. What do you have to do when you build a kit from pre-made shells? Do you form the edges, or are they shaped already? You buy the hardware etc & put it together?

I never thought about this as an option but I think I could manage it, is it economical?

Thanks
-Paul B
Old 26th January 2005
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Very pretty, Roundbadge. What do you have to do when you build a kit from pre-made shells? Do you form the edges, or are they shaped already? You buy the hardware etc & put it together?

I never thought about this as an option but I think I could manage it, is it economical?
Thanks
-Paul B
http://www.smddrums.com/
Old 26th January 2005
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Originally posted by Berolzheimer
Very pretty, Roundbadge. What do you have to do when you build a kit from pre-made shells? Do you form the edges, or are they shaped already? You buy the hardware etc & put it together?

I never thought about this as an option but I think I could manage it, is it economical?

Thanks
-Paul B
Jamz has got it goin on! check his site and go here too: http://www.ghostnote.net/ everything you need to know is right there.Yes,It's economical ,If a guy like me with little drumbuilding experience can do it ,I'm sure you could too!I did the edges[took some practice] and finished/drilled the raw shells.
Old 26th January 2005
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Thanks guys, those are great links.
Looks like fun. Of course the last thing I need right now is to take on another big project....
Old 26th January 2005
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Quote:
Originally posted by pitman
How does the Craviotto stack up next to the Brady?
I've played a Brady and thought it was outstanding.
I'm not familar with Dunnet.
Ronn Dunnett is a Canadian making, IMHO, some of the finest snare drums on the planet, along with fellow Canadian Pete Stanbridge.

Check out the Dunnett site here.

You can check out the Stanbridge site here.

Cheers,

bdp
Old 10th February 2006
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RoundBadge,

Any chance you can report on the results of your experiments?

I'm thinking of building my own kit and am still navigating through all the variables. I'm not particularly handy, but I'm thinking if I get pre-drilled shells with pre-cut bearing edges it'll be pretty tough to screw it up.

I want to build something that records well (in a pop/rock context) and is versatile. If I had to pick a spot on the vintage/modern sound spectrum I would go for vintage, but I'm wondering if a certain combination of shells, bearing edges, and perhaps hardware can widen the the range of the kit. It doesn't have to sound-shift from Ringo's kit to Travis Baker's, but I'd like to end up with something that responds well to tunning and is able to go from a vintage-ish to a mdern-ish vibe.

So, I'm wondering what results you achieved with different combination of woods and bearing edges. In particular I'd be interested in your findings re: versatility, tone (compared to your vintage/modern kits), and usefulness in recording situations.

Thanks!!!

P.S. Long time lurker; first post. So, a big to everyone.
Old 16th February 2006
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hey dude

that is one aweet kit you got there

i frequent what is now drumshed and yeah that place is way cool

i will not be buying a kit for my studio i will be building as well

how did you go with the bearing edges

anything to report

cheers ramjet
Old 16th February 2006
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Anyone got any interesting nutty kits they made for recording?

Wedding ring and fist on the rims/shells sounds funky when sent through the right filter/oscillator.

It's also fun to get a long piece of scotch tape, put coins on it (sticky side, duh), and lay that on a cymbal for interesting sizzle/rivet-type sounds.
Old 16th February 2006
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hey dude

that is one aweet kit you got there

i frequent what is now drumshed and yeah that place is way cool

i will not be buying a kit for my studio i will be building as well

how did you go with the bearing edges

anything to report

cheers ramjet
Thanks!

I've been using the keller vss maple[attack punch], vintage[attack,warm],mohogany [round ,warm]shells
It's very time consuming but rewarding..
I bought my own routing table from Rockler over in Pasadena
I also made an edge checker with some 1/2 inch tinted plate glass.
a large round tabletop from home depot with snd paper contact glued works for making the shells perfectly flat before routing..
a nice big drill press from sears helps too
I experiment with the edges..sometimes a 12" shallow tom wants a real sharp 45 degree edge,then maybe an 18 inch floor wants something a bit rounder..
sometimes a really thin 5 ply shell with no vents gives the drum more resonance..sometimes they'll choke without em'..
It's all about trying different things..and I've fukked a couple up too,,,part of the process.
i can fine tune a kit any way I like..
And yes, they record REALLY well!
Old 18th February 2006
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Originally Posted by pitman

What are you using for snare drum(s)?
Have you tried the Brady stuff?
I played in a band with a guy who used Brady drums.

One thing I remember clearly was that the first time he went for a tom fill, I nearly crapped my pants! Super stinkin' loud + tone!

(I'd go into subtleties a bit more if I weren't a lowly guitar player. )


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I just built this kit ..I can't wait to record the suckers .3 more sets are on the way
Roundbadge: you have to tell me what kind of coffee you drink.
Old 18th February 2006
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Roundbadge: you have to tell me what kind of coffee you drink.


It used to be jet fuel!
Funny you should mention that Max...
My doctor made me cut way back on the caffiene a few months ago..
Diet Rock Star and Red Bull included!
Old 23rd February 2006
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just out of interest do you frequent drumshed

cheers
Old 23rd February 2006
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just out of interest do you frequent drumshed

cheers
Yes ,but not much lately..so fukkin busy with other things.
i learned everything from ghostnote.com..
there was a dispute between the ghostnote founders and a guy split off and started drumshed last year..
hey,the more sites, the merrier!
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