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Gate Drums or Not?
Old 20th July 2016
  #31
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Gates are bad!! instead I ride the faders to tape. watch the drummer and quickly push the tom faders up when it looks like he's about to hit them. a lot more effort but totally worth it! this is the classic technique you read about a lot in Sound on Sound.

but usually I only just one mic total on the drums so that there's no phasing. I hate phasing! hey if it worked for Miles Davis and all those 20s jazz guys it should work for everything from heavy metal to death metal!
Old 23rd July 2016
  #32
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Ancient thread, but, no, I can't imagine gating anything at all while tracking. I'm pretty sure I want to capture the sound of the space on drums all of the time. I guess some live engineers might have some reason to, but I can't think of a good reason why a recording engineer would. I've used a little expansion on the OH's at times during mixing, just to put a little space in the mix, but it's still reasonably subtle, and not something I'd do out of habit.

Actually, I can't think of a time I processed drums on the way in. Drummers aren't like a vocalist or guitar or bass player, who might be playing a compressor somewhat. I suppose one might put a safety limiter on, but I've never had enough channels of limiting for that to make sense. Dunno. Maybe I'm just not confident enough about processing drums to think I can do it while tracking.
Old 24th September 2016
  #33
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If you gate on the front end you're done. Especially cymbals. They are meant to shimmer down and once the gate closes, it's all over. I think it's overused for the sake of conveniece and cost savings...
Old 12th August 2019
  #34
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I just saved a bunch of money on my gate insurance!
Thanks Gearslutz!
Old 12th August 2019
  #35
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zombie thread bump alert!

i cannot even remember using gates on drums it's been so long... - but expanders: any time, often on the way in (as i like to record pretty much 'finished' tracks)!
Old 13th August 2019
  #36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrface2112 View Post
i never gate during recording. i will quite often gate toms during mixing.
Wow, a big HI to me from 12 years ago! He was younger, thinner, unhappily married and a parent of only one (2 year old) at the time.

Boy how things change. I'm probably about the same weight, definitely older, HAPPILY divorced and I have a teen and pre-teen in the house.

GearSlutz stays the same, though. :-)
Old 13th August 2019
  #37
I wouldn't use a gate during recording but there are plenty of functional and creative uses for gating in mixing, for sure.

Live sound - absolutely for anything gig with 'regular' stage volume - ie. not a jazz gig. Kick in, bottom snare, and toms for sure.
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