I am a former Sonar user who switched to Logic a few years back. This update is interesting, since in X1, Sonar started to look a bit like Logic with the Skylight interface (a good thing imo) and now with X3, they have updated some more things that kind of feel like they were Logic inspired in their implementation, for example: Comping.
It's not against cubase ...i'm just pointing that some ,just seems to don't know what a DAW is all about ....Cubase is agreat one and with studio one is one i would consider if i stop using sonar (witch is not going to happen soon !!)
I'd like to think that it means that they're moving back to the much more superior workflow of 8.5 and returning features they took out that weren't broken like stereo interleave and phase buttons on each track.
It'd be nice to see Sonar move back to being a professional product instead of the bedroom producer product it is now.
But then again, maybe I don't understand Cakewalk's vision...perhaps they gave up on professionals and are going after fruityloops? That would explain how pathetic Sonar's become at least.
phase and interleaved are here and never gone ! can't understand that statement ...
Every area have been enhaced , every exctpt the notation that not have been touched ......so now if you don't dig the interface or goodies like the Matrix , step sequencer stuff or plugins added (like i do also ) this will not say that this is a bed romm producer product ....even if now young kids can use it and are not impressed like they used to be with the exellent 8.5.2
It comes down to this. If you are an experienced DAW user, most likely you have stuck with your DAW from the beginning after researching which one appeared to fit your workflow best, etc.
From there, we all get frustrated with things that should have worked but didn't (all DAWS have gone through these growing pains).
So, if you are a SONAR user, X3 is a welcome release... some new cool features, some new plugins, etc. If you are already plug in rich, then the STUDIO version or even the CORE version should work for you. The CORE package has the same code (not crippled) with no limitations of anything and full price is like $99.00.
So, if you have a ton of plugs, used to use SONAR, for $99 you can get come back and try all the features and fixes of the X series of CAKE"s DAW.
I obviously am a long time user and really like this release... I don't like the $149 upgrade price but you get some full version plugs worth much more than that if you need them.
I upgraded to the X3a Producer version (64 bit) yesterday (from X2 Producer). I could probably get by with a lot less but I like what is available if I want or need to use it. I already had Melodyne so that wasn't an upgrade, although I had more success with VVocal than Melodyne.
I also bought ProTools MP9 a couple of years ago as many of my friends in Nashville use that, but compared to Sonar I'll stick with Sonar for my uses.
Sonar X3 is what's on the manufactured box disc sets, since those were manufactured they have still been working night and day on bug fixes and features that are on the X3a download. So if you download your X3 purchase, you get the X3a version. The X3a update download for boxed set owners is supposed to be available in the next week or so.
I forgot to mention, Cakewalk has already said they are working on an X3b update and an X3c is also scheduled to have some video updates done. It's nice to see a program being supported with continuous improvements.
X3 is interesting for me. I added up some of the new features and if you bought all the plug-ins separately, you'd have to spend at least $1,000 bucks. For me this is a great bargain as I didn't have many plug-ins, but now I do. Here's a quick list off the top of my head..
Nomad Effects Bundle
New high quality EQ
High quality Tape Simulator
I am a long time sonar user and in my opinion x3 is the best sonar released to date with many of the reqested features implimented. For me the color customization alone worth the upgrade price (which was the only feature in protools that I liked). I am very excited for this version.
@ ionian : Those 2 futurs are used in my process (like a lot of guyz) during the mixing stage ...and guess what ...i mainly use the console view with teh up of the time grid (showing markers) under that ....so that's why i never been enoyed like you do ....
So basically you gonna trach a crazy sequencer because of one decision that you don't validate ? i do prefer the old Send layout and i 'm lobbying to get the fx slots ala PT ....its not the case now ...but i ain't tripping ..
But i fully understand you , specailly when we can personnalize the module slayoout on the track view ....no sens to take of somehing to simplify the dispaly while we can do it by options ...