The No.1 Website for Pro Audio
 All  This Thread  Reviews  Gear Database  Gear for sale     Latest  Trending
Best fabric for Acoustic Panels
Old 24th February 2011
  #1
Gear Nut
 

Best fabric for Acoustic Panels

Hey I know this thread has been done many times, but Im in a pretty cool situation.

My mom owns a fabric shop with thousands of rolls of different types of fabric. So I basically have any type of fabric at my disposal.

Other than the Burlap and Muslin stuff, I was wondering, is Upholstery ok for panels? (fabric usually covering couches)..

Or even better, would headliner be ok? (the stuff on the ceiling of your car -- it has a thin layer of foam underneath it) -- I wonder if that would help even more with absorbing.

What about Vinyl? Is that too hard for a fabric?

If anyone could help me out with this, I would appreciate it greatly.
Old 24th February 2011
  #2
Lives for gear
 
Jens Eklund's Avatar
Quote:
Originally Posted by perplex View Post
Hey I know this thread has been done many times, but Im in a pretty cool situation.

My mom owns a fabric shop with thousands of rolls of different types of fabric. So I basically have any type of fabric at my disposal.

Other than the Burlap and Muslin stuff, I was wondering, is Upholstery ok for panels? (fabric usually covering couches)..

Or even better, would headliner be ok? (the stuff on the ceiling of your car -- it has a thin layer of foam underneath it) -- I wonder if that would help even more with absorbing.

What about Vinyl? Is that too hard for a fabric?

If anyone could help me out with this, I would appreciate it greatly.
If panels used at first reflection points, the fabric should offer little (none preferably) resistance if you try and breath through it (low flow resistivity).

If other panels, it depends what you want to achieve. The above makes sure that the highs are not reflected but often, one wants to minimize the absorption at higher frequencies to avoid a dead sounding room with uneven decay times.
Old 24th February 2011
  #3
Gear Maniac
 
Radioking's Avatar
The Foam backed fabric is useful as you can glue it with spray adhesive to different types of hard surfaces. For example it can cover otherwise ugly plasterboard joints. Also any fabric used in a studio environment probably needs to be fire resistant (******ant not allowed ). Sounds like a good resource though.

Andy
Old 24th February 2011
  #4
Gear Nut
 

awesome, thanks guys. I think i will go with the headliner since it has both qualities you guys speak of.
Old 26th February 2011
  #5
Gear Head
If fire resistance is not a need for you, I would suggest speaker grill cloth. It looks great, and obviously designed to be acoustically transparent.
Old 1st April 2011
  #6
Here for the gear
 

Best fabric...

Altimately and without limits on budget there are 2 manufacturers fabric I would consider... both of these fabrics have been used by specialist acoustic wall panel manufacturers.

Texona
Gabriel Europost

If your mum owns a fabric shop she may know of them - they have excellent 'breathable' qualities allowing sound to transfer through to the absorbing core (foam / glasswool etc).
Old 1st April 2011
  #7
Lives for gear
 
johndykstra's Avatar
 

Hi Matt.

Can you elaborate on your acousticel thin wall isolating system? It seems to provide 48db of airbourne loss, is that including the 4" thick brick wall? What is the loss via mechanical transmission? Any lab test data?

Last edited by johndykstra; 1st April 2011 at 09:52 PM..
Old 1st April 2011
  #8
SAC
Registered User
 

There is NO need to seek out designer labels for panel materials nor to pay exorbitant prices that pay for the glossy brochures; although I personally advocate using a reduced flammability rated material.

What is rather amazing is that few (if any) "acoustical" fabric manufacturers have any useful specs made available regarding their materials relative to their use with acoustics.

One might think that for all of the claims of suitability that are made, that such measurements would be available.

And if one is going to suggest this stuff, it would be nice, in light of full disclosure, to identify oneself as a commercial product rep for such products that are being recommended. - as has been the nature of every post thus far.
Old 3rd April 2011
  #9
Lives for gear
 

Quote:
What is rather amazing is that few (if any) "acoustical" fabric manufacturers have any useful specs made available regarding their materials relative to their use with acoustics.

One might think that for all of the claims of suitability that are made, that such measurements would be available.
In Australia, Frontrunner fabric has often been used as "acoustically transparent". However, when I asked the manufacturer for flow resistivity test data to comply with a HK project specification, there was none available.

I also tried Guilford of Maine and eventually after much persistence obtained a test result for air permeability which appears to be relevant. Don't have it to hand atm but will post later after I have dug it out.

One would think that "acoustic fabric" manufacturers would have such data ready to hand...
Old 4th April 2011
  #10
Here for the gear
 

This list of GOM materials appears to be several years old, so some of the styles have been discontinued and some newer lines are not included, however it lists many of the current styles.
http://www.bobgolds.com/GOM%20Fabric...er%20Cloth.pdf
Old 4th April 2011
  #11
Here for the gear
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by johndykstra View Post
Hi Matt.

Can you elaborate on your acousticel thin wall isolating system? It seems to provide 48db of airbourne loss, is that including the 4" thick brick wall? What is the loss via mechanical transmission? Any lab test data?

Hi John,

This is not including the brick wall. Using this system you will get a Sound insulation value of 48dB DnT,W+Ctr on a single skin brick wall which is approx. an 87% reduction in sound transmission. This has been lab tested too.

Regards,

Matt B
Nationwide Interior Acoustic Specialists - ReSpace Acoustics Ltd
Old 4th April 2011
  #12
Lives for gear
 
avare's Avatar
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by MattBullen View Post
Hi John,

This is not including the brick wall. [FONT=TTE1F88F90t00][SIZE=2][FONT=TTE1F88F90t00][SIZE=2]Using this system you will get a Sound insulation value of 48dB DnT,W+Ctr on a single skin brick wall which is approx. an 87% reduction in sound transmission. This has been lab tested too
Meant in desirous of good communication, when discussing noise reduction dB or metrics based on dB are used, not percentages.

Similarly, derived metrics from dB ARE NOT expessed as dB. They are expressed just as that metric. For example STC 48. With STC standing for Sound Isolation Classification, the meaning becomes clear.

Andre
Old 15th April 2011
  #13
Gear Head
 

A little help for a noob

Hey,
I'm a real noob at all this, but I'm going to attempt to do some acoustic treatment and am now tryin to decide on fabrics for my broadband panel absorbers and bass traps. I keep reading things like to use fabrics with little or no resistance. I guess my question is, how little resistance is a little.

Ideally, I'd like to find a fabric that looks nice, with some prints on it. Something like the one below. The thing is the fabrics like this are 100% cotton, and I can blow through them, just not as easily as the cloth you find on speakers. I mean if I wrapped the material around my face, I wouldn't suffocate for sure.

If i used this fabric on my absorbers @ first reflection, would I be ok? I probably wont use the same fabric for the wall pannels and bass traps. Obviously the less resistance the better, but will it make a big difference. Id probably be willing to sacrifice some minor absorbtion performance (I'm not necessarily going for ultimate sonic perfection) for increased aesthetics. Just kinda wondering how big of a deal fabric choice is when building these absorbers.
Reverberations and ringing seem to be my biggest problems btw.
Attached Thumbnails
Best fabric for Acoustic Panels-lena-fabric-assorted-colors__72388_pe188152_s4.jpg  
Old 4th May 2011
  #14
Here for the gear
 

Fabric for covering acoustic panels

Hi guys, please forgive me for just jumping into the discussion, this is the only place on the web that I know I can trust for good objective advice and feedback. I'm converting my apartment into a studio, it started off as a project (God I'm beginning to hate that word) that was modest, but I've ended up making it into a much bigger and better job. I'm an engineer, not the sound kind, the other kind, so I researched acoustic treatment and materials, and ended up constructing my own panels, wooden frames, twenty of 'em, with compressed rockwool slabs, the new kind, four times as insulating as normal rockwool, I've just been given some really cool fabric, I'm styling my control room with a glam rock seventies look, the fabric is lycra with holographic sequins, the sequins are not the authentic type, just similar in size, and they look fantastic, but I'm worried as to whether they are suitable for covering acoustic panels. I do have alternative fabrics, purple velvet with gold embroidered flowers on it, think waist coat for Hendrix and you won't be far out, being one of them. Can anyone tell me if I can use the sequined one, the panels are to completely cover the main wall of the room, which (the room) is five meters by four in size, this will enable me to monitor at decent levels without annoying my neighbors. I do intend to have a large free standing raking panel behind the monitors and desk etc. This will definitely not have sequins on it. Can anyone help with this question please. I will be most grateful for any input. Thanks in anticipation. Col. England. P.S. I have been able to record this music without any treatment of the room: KISS THE REVOLUTION | Free Music, Tour Dates, Photos, Videos

Last edited by NOONWITCH; 4th May 2011 at 08:08 PM.. Reason: Gramma correction.
Old 25th May 2011
  #15
Here for the gear
 

Try Camira - Lucia fabric...

Also, search for Camira 'Lucia' fabric... hopefully a distributor where you are. Its cheap and acoustically performs well.
Old 25th May 2011
  #16
Lives for gear
 

I have some samples of Camira's popular Cara range, along with some of the Lucia. I see that a lot of manufacturers of acoustic panels offer Lucia as an option.

But I must admit to being surprised by this.....

It's not an open weave in the way Cara is, and there is a whole load more resistance when the breath test is tried with it. It also has more sheen/less softness. I was and still am a touch skeptical... I loved the Lucia colour and texture and would love to use it (I'm still in the market for fabric), but was put off by these feelings.

Would therefore be interested to hear if anyone is using it or would similarly recommend it or be wary of it....
Old 6th August 2019
  #17
TJ5
Gear Nut
I'm building portable 2' x 4' x 4" acoustic panels right now and wondering if anyone has any advice for me for my hobby home studio.

I read a bunch of blogs and watched a lot of YouTube videos but I haven't decided on the fabric. I'd like to know the following as it pertains to using rigid fiberglass in the panels:

1) Should I use two layers of fabric - one cheap fabric to cover the fiberglass and one good fabric as the finished layer? I'm concerned about any fiberglass that someone can breathe in especially if these panels are used to surround a person while they're singing.

2) I know not to get any shiny fabric to avoid reflections but what are the best types of fabric to use? I've read about these types so far: micro-suede, burlap, muslin, Guildford of Maine products (FR701, Anchorage, Whisper, Studio 54, and SoundSuede).

I don't want to spend a ton of money but any advice would be greatly appreciate. Thanks.

Last edited by TJ5; 6th August 2019 at 06:52 PM.. Reason: spelling error
Post Reply

Welcome to the Gearslutz Pro Audio Community!

Registration benefits include:
  • The ability to reply to and create new discussions
  • Access to members-only giveaways & competitions
  • Interact with VIP industry experts in our guest Q&As
  • Access to members-only sub forum discussions
  • Access to members-only Chat Room
  • Get INSTANT ACCESS to the world's best private pro audio Classifieds for only USD $20/year
  • Promote your eBay auctions and Reverb.com listings for free
  • Remove this message!
You need an account to post a reply. Create a username and password below and an account will be created and your post entered.


 
 
Slide to join now Processing…
Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Forum Jump
Forum Jump