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Real Traps "Mini Traps installation at The Library Studio Ribbon Microphones
Old 22nd March 2004
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can someone tell me what the european equivalent is for 703 and 705 ?
Old 22nd March 2004
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Andre,

> can someone tell me what the european equivalent is for 703 and 705 ? <

Look for rigid rock wool or rigid mineral wool. Several companies make it there. You want material with a density of between about 40 and 90 kilograms per cubic meter.

--Ethan
Old 22nd March 2004
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Thanks alot ethan.
Old 23rd March 2004
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Old 23rd March 2004
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Four mini traps are arriving this week. It's a good start. --Eric
Old 3rd April 2004
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OK I havent done a tracking session in there yet but my engineer has and I was able to solo some drum tracks.

Royer SF12 stereo overhead mic

Used to be - vauge, bearly stereo - full of reflective wall crap
Now = VERY stereo - good cymbal sound - far far less reflective crap

In fact, it has become a PURELY cymbal mic

So far so good!

I though we were going to have to sell it because it didnt work in that room.

Next week = session guy (Keith Moon style drummer) for a day of pure drum expiremantation!



2 mic - 121 on kick + SF12 overhead (all Helios)
3 mic - 2 x M149's - D112 on kick (all Helios)
Multi mic set up with - Royer SF12 on OH & M149 on room
Multi mic set up with - M149 as overheads & SF12 on room

I will be using a LOT of drum group compression to simulate full battle conditions & because - I LIKE IT!

I may get in some other borrowed OH mic's (SUGGESTIONS PLEASE!)

I am in the mood to do whatever it takes to get a hot drum sound - even if it means selling an M149 (shock!) and buying some KM84's or Earthworks - or even selling the SF12 (bigger shock) if other mic's out perform it in my room... . I'm not freelance anymore!
Old 3rd April 2004
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Hey Jules it looked like you had a spit a/c unit in your tracking room. Can you get away with using it when tracking?
Old 3rd April 2004
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I can put a Neumann M149 in the 1ft gap between the AC unit and the side wall - compress the hell out of it and not hear a DAMN THING!

It's fine - but I do LOUD rock

Old 3rd April 2004
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Not to hijack the thread, but could you post info on the mfr and model # of that split system?
Old 3rd April 2004
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Daikin make the quietest split system available.

They do a couple of different models depending on the size of your room.

Here in the UK they tend to be rather expensive and quotes vary widely. Typically 2k to 3k installed (gbp).

However I manged to find a guy up north who laughed his arse off when I told him what I'd been quoted, and sold me one installed for just under 1k. www.globalcooling.co.uk

J
Old 18th April 2004
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Update on mini Traps

Jules any further info on how the mini traps are working for you??
Old 18th April 2004
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Quote:
Originally posted by andre tchmil
can someone tell me what the european equivalent is for 703 and 705 ?
Hi!

In Finland we have this http://www.isover.fi/en/products/def...&cid=277&val=1
and it is pretty cheap indeed...

Respect,

AaPee

PS. I also use it under my parquet floor of my studio. Excellent product.
Old 18th April 2004
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I did a full day messing around in there with a session drummer.

I will turn some tracks into mp3's and post em with a report soon.

Old 18th April 2004
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Thanks!

Looking forward to that!
Old 23rd April 2004
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Any mp3s yet Jules? Very interested in hearing your thoughts.
Old 13th May 2004
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Just been too slammed to find the time to post em up...

Will do soon...
Old 16th June 2004
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Bumpin' this to the top.

I'm still curious on Jules findings.

--JTL
Old 16th June 2004
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Thumbs up Still interested

I'll second that sentiment.
Old 16th June 2004
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~Bump~

Interested in hearing your drum room Jules.
Old 20th June 2004
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Bump-a-de-bump
Old 20th June 2004
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OK I had every intention to post up some MP3's of the drum room... Then got v busy....

It's been on my mind as something I flaked out about (not usually my style)

One funny aspect of my "test day" was that I promised the drummer doing it for free that I would help him with my connections to get some session work or (more likely) join a signed band.... I sent some emails off to try to hook him up as we packed his gear away. Two weeks later he joined a v cool band, and two more weeks later that band (and him) were on the cover of the NME! (UK version of Spin)



Anyhow I just did a great session in there and plan to post a) the song and b) a drum snippet. I will mix it in about a week and a half. By then my laptop should be repaired too (I dropped it & have restricted net access at present)...

BTW - this session has been the FIRST real test of the drum room with MYSELF at the controls on an actual session, the studio HAS had sessions in but they have all been with the house engineers, not me...I've been busy with other stuff and very un-busy in the studio!

I was v happy with the reduced ambience / "crappy clatter" - The drums sound great as they are in R Mix form.

I am satisfied and relieved that the drum room treatment has been a sucess / worth doing. Up till about a day ago I was UNABLE TO SAY THIS - cause I haven't used the room MYSELF since the one day drum test / discovery day.....

I hope this explains my silence on the subject!

OK?

Old 21st June 2004
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i built the real trap bass trap design by ethan winer, and It does what it says it does. It tightend up my drum room well, and was worth the work. You could just buy a bunch of 703 / 705,cover it in burlap and hang it.

I dont have any corroborating mp3's though.

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Todd S.
Old 3rd August 2004
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bump

Jules, how do you like the minitraps after having them for a while?
Old 3rd August 2004
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They are working perfectly + they look cool & I haven't had to 'roll the dice' with a built in solution that may or may not have worked.

I am getting good close mic sound without 'bare wall sound' - I will post an MP3 - I am just waiting for premission from the band.

Happy!

Old 3rd August 2004
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They are working perfectly + they look cool & I haven't hahd to 'roll the dice' with a built in solution that may or may not have worked.

I am getting close mic sound without 'bare wall sound' - I will post an MP3 - I am just waiting for premission from the band.

Happy!

Old 19th August 2004
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Old 25th September 2004
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RealTraps BassTraps

RealTraps just started making "Mondo Traps" which absorb even more bass than the Mini Traps. Great for studio corners.
Old 11th December 2004
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So 9 months on from the installation...

I have to say they have worked VERY well..

in tandem with a VERY thick carpet and rolling baffles / gobos - we get great drum sounds.

We have had countless compliments for drummers and more recently a very experienced pop recording specialist string quartet. When they were in the engineers on the session removed some of the real traps (that were hanging up on on wire) to get a live-er sound in the room.

I would also say Steve Remote's tip to use Beyer M 160 mic's for drum overheads was also a vital development in our quest for a good sound in our low ceiling room.

Old 14th February 2005
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Old 14th February 2005
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A bit off topic but I’m in the planning stages of building a Control Room and need some advice.
Interior dimensions of the room will be about 9’x12’ and the ceiling height will be 8’.
Space is precious and built in acoustic treatment with angled walls takes up a lot of real estate.
Would I be better off taking care of the acoustics as a part of the construction (built in) or use modular panels such as “Real Traps” and/or homemade traps after the walls are built? ...Both effectiveness and cost wise?
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