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Doing a transfer of a 33 1/3 record from Russia from the middle of the 1960s
Old 1st December 2017
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Doing a transfer of a 33 1/3 record from Russia from the middle of the 1960s

All production and pressing done in Russia. Any idea of the EQ record/playback curve they might have used. RIAA sounds very dull with no high frequencies. Thanks in advance.
Old 1st December 2017
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Perhaps this may be of assistance, which I also posted here:
Audio Archival Handbooks

Russian labels didn’t standardise until roughly 1975, so unless you specify label it may be difficult to determine the correct curve.
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Old 1st December 2017
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Perhaps this may be of assistance, which I also posted here:
Audio Archival Handbooks

Russian labels didn’t standardise until roughly 1975, so unless you specify label it may be difficult to determine the correct curve.
Thanks so much. It was reissued in 1987

Мелодия
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USSR state label founded in 1964. It was the only label within the USSR after 1964 (there were a lot of labels before) but ceased to be state-owned when the USSR collapsed. Export releases were shipped with full colour sleeves and, at least, English translations while most of domestic copies had generic paper sleeves.

I think it maybe AES or NAB.

I assume the reissue would have the same EQing as the first pressing.

Thanks for the Links, I am familiar with some of them but to have that listing is like gold.

Thanks again!

Last edited by Thomas W. Bethe; 1st December 2017 at 07:13 PM.. Reason: Found the record company
Old 2nd December 2017
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The Russian Melodiya label used the CCIR 1956 standard for both mono and stereo pressings, similar to Deutsche Grammaphon and Teldec, but they also used RIAA.

Do you have a catalogue number? e.g. ГОСТ 5289-80.

Last edited by reynaud; 2nd December 2017 at 07:59 PM.. Reason: added catalogue number example
Old 3rd December 2017
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Here is the info off the record

CTEPEO C60 26187003

ROCT 5289-60

rP3 2-25

Copyright appears to be 1987

Label color is salmon with a city skyline on it.

Client says the record is from the 1960s.
Old 3rd December 2017
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CTEPEO C60 26187003
Release is Stereo (indicated by the C and obviously the CTEPEO), and the “2618xxxx” string indicates that it was issued in 1988 but not necessarily pressed on that date.

The x6x originally indicated that the release is a recording of operetta by Russian composers, and the xx0 indicating that it is a 12” LP.

The Cxx-yyyyy format was introduced post-1975 so that hints at the issue date.

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ROCT 5289-60
Based on the catalogue number, the original release is 1960, so the original pressing would have almost certainly have been CCIR 1956.

The disc cover usually indicates year of production as well as pressing plant which will hint at which stampers were used. e.g. Рижский Ордена «Знак Почета» Завод Грампластинок (Riga)

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Label color is salmon with a city skyline on it.
That matches a post 1988 release.



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Client says the record is from the 1960s.
Based on the catalogue number that would be correct for the original pressing, but not necessarily the re-release.

Do the catalogue numbers match on Sides 1 and 2?
For example on Side 1 it may be ГОСТ 5289-88 but on Side 2 it may be ГОСТ 5289-80.

Often, the majority of the time required for a project involves research in to the carrier and its history before any transfer takes place. The transfer is the easy part.

Last edited by reynaud; 3rd December 2017 at 05:01 PM..
Old 3rd December 2017
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Thanks so much for all the information. You are indeed correct one side is C60 26187 003 with a 26188 underneath (like the example above) . The other side is C60 26187 003 with a 26187 underneath. You really know this stuff and it is so great to learn about this from you. Thanks again, Do you still think it is using CCIR equalization? Have a GREAT weekend.
Old 7th December 2017
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Woah what a detailed response, Thomas I think you might owe him a beer!
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