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Anyone interested in my new benchmark to replace the dated Evan's test?
Old 4 weeks ago
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Nice, are you planning on sticking with the 5,1 12 Core Mac Pro for a while?

How's the noise with it, mine's a noisey beast. Not sure it was always that way....
I’ll have to stick with this 5.1, can’t afford the New MAC Pro, actually disappointing to see it so expensive & not on the new AMD chips, maybe they will release a cheaper version with a 9900k instead of xeons..I could be dreaming

Noisy? It’s the most silent computer I’ve had, if you’ve got a Mac Pro 5.1 with noisy fans, there must be something wrong. The two front fans run quite slow even under extreme load
Old 4 weeks ago
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Mac Pro 12 core 3.46 - Logic Pro 10.4.5, OSX 10.13.6
117 tracks @ 128 buffer, large process buffer internal audio
121 tracks @ 128 buffer, large process buffer, Apogee interface
As an experiment I thought I’d try the old 10.4.4 to see the speed difference! I just presumed 10.4.5 made if faster..

I got similar readings to above!

Logic 10.4.4
117 tracks @ 128 buffer, large process buffer internal audio
120 tracks @ 128 buffer, large process buffer, Apogee interface

I re-ran the 10.4.5 and it struggled to do the 117 tracks internally. I got a few system overloads before it would finally play, I think it shuffles the load about till it gets it to play. It also struggled to do the 121 with my interface.
I did have the activity monitor open however so maybe that’s it, but I noticed actually the thread count on 10.4.4 was 53 and on 10.4.5 was 54, it fluctuated up & down a bit so now I’m confused , I’m unsure 10.4.5 makes Logic have any faster performance at all! Certainly for my Mac Pro anyway..

I took some pics of the activity monitor but not allowed to post them it says.
Old 4 weeks ago
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As an experiment I thought I’d try the old 10.4.4 to see the speed difference! I just presumed 10.4.5 made if faster..

I got similar readings to above!

Logic 10.4.4
117 tracks @ 128 buffer, large process buffer internal audio
120 tracks @ 128 buffer, large process buffer, Apogee interface

I re-ran the 10.4.5 and it struggled to do the 117 tracks internally. I got a few system overloads before it would finally play, I think it shuffles the load about till it gets it to play. It also struggled to do the 121 with my interface.
I did have the activity monitor open however so maybe that’s it, but I noticed actually the thread count on 10.4.4 was 53 and on 10.4.5 was 54, it fluctuated up & down a bit so now I’m confused , I’m unsure 10.4.5 makes Logic have any faster performance at all! Certainly for my Mac Pro anyway..

I took some pics of the activity monitor but not allowed to post them it says.
if you can get the new features with a similar speed; it s good news !
I'd not expect Logic in 2019 to be optimized for ALL machines including all Mac Pros. with old machine, at one point it's better to stop upgrading and keep a clean system.
Old 4 weeks ago
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As I've seen results here with the new Mac Mini (32GB RAM) going as much as 91 tracks, I wonder why mine stops @ 83 tracks?

My Geekbench Single: 5939 Multi: 25533
This is with OSX 10.14.5 and Logic 10.4.5
Old 4 weeks ago
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As I've seen results here with the new Mac Mini (32GB RAM) going as much as 91 tracks, I wonder why mine stops @ 83 tracks?

My Geekbench Single: 5939 Multi: 25533
This is with OSX 10.14.5 and Logic 10.4.5
That's still very good, some things to look at. Which version of Logic are you running? What size screen and resolution? Running test off an external drive?
Old 4 weeks ago
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As I've seen results here with the new Mac Mini (32GB RAM) going as much as 91 tracks, I wonder why mine stops @ 83 tracks?

My Geekbench Single: 5939 Multi: 25533
This is with OSX 10.14.5 and Logic 10.4.5
It’s throttled depending on CPU temp, a friend of mine is having a nightmare with his, it keeps slowing down.

I thought the point of 10.4.5 was it was faster but it isn’t, it simply plays more tracks. Some performances are better however, thank god, Logic is so slow at times. I’ve seen some very weird stuff however with 10.4.5, it feels a bit buggy.
Old 3 weeks ago
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Sorry guys and gals, haven't checked out this topic or even looked at the test in months.. had family deaths, and much more sadly.. Have kind of had a musical break but will get back into it shortly.. Anyway will give it all read this weekend and see if there's anything I need to adjust.
Old 3 weeks ago
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Sorry guys and gals, haven't checked out this topic or even looked at the test in months.. had family deaths, and much more sadly.. Have kind of had a musical break but will get back into it shortly.. Anyway will give it all read this weekend and see if there's anything I need to adjust.
No worries mate, sorry for your losses. take care
Old 3 weeks ago
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81 tracks for me on my 2018 Mac mini, 3.2 i7 with 64GB ram, 1TB 128 buffer, medium, 44.1, clarett 8 PreX

Only slightly disappointed considering the newer MBPs are scary close to what the MM is doing, and you don’t need to get an external graphics card.

I did have power gadget open to see thermals and Processor numbers. Around 65-70 tracks the processor stops going above 4.0 GHz as the temp hits 100. From there on up it stayed between 3.4-3.8 GHz and rarely dropped to 3.2 with the temp sitting between 95-98. Fans are loud, but not as loud as my 2015 MBP Pro.

At 79-80 tracks I could open the plugin windows, resize, etc. with no system overload. I opened activity monitor during one of the tests and Ram usage was below 10GB for me.
Old 1 week ago
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I am in between computers and got a maxed out mini coming finally. Anyways, thought it would be fun to run the benchmark on my temporary (pos) computer.

MBP 13" 2017. 2.3 i5. 8gb ram.
Internal audio and 128 buffer.

Could run 19 tracks without overloads, but everything was really unresponsive.

There will be loads of freezing, printing and committing until next week at least

Last edited by J.Beatnik; 1 week ago at 07:56 AM.. Reason: Left out some info
Old 1 week ago
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Very interesting logic test.

Another interesting aspect to comment should be the room temperature when the test was performed.

I currently have 35º C in my room and the ambient sensor of my iMac shows a temperature of 45º C. Outside we have these weeks between 42º C and 46º C. I don't have A/C in my recording studio because of the noise (but with the climate change I will consider buying one and using Izotope RX to eliminate the noise afterwards.

Taking into account these infernal temperature conditions, my test results were the following:

Machine: iMac 5K 2019 i9 9900K Vega 48 40GB RAM 512GB SSD, audio interface Emu 0404 USB 2.0 with non official OSX driver, not created specificallyfor audio production but for audiophiles (it is the only way to use this old USB 2.0 audio interface on OSX Mojave).

Logic X 10.2.2. 44.1kHz 128ms buffer (as default)

141 tracks playing various loop cycles endlessly.

165 tracks only for 1 cycle and then overloading randomly every x cycles.

The fan remained dead silent during the tests (which is amazing).

If I use a bigger buffer I can reach more tracks.

I will repeat the test in Winter, when we have -15ºC outside to see if the temperatures have influence on the results, with 20 degrees less inside . I think that room temperatures are limiting the cooling overhead capacity of my system and limiting the number of tracks that the iMac could manage. But I am happy with the results. I use very demanding plug-ins (diva, serum, reaktor, bazille, etc.) and this system is ideal for them. Also the version Logic X 10.2.2 I am using could be a little outdated (2016) and not extracting the full juice from the processor.

This is the real performance in proper conditions of the system benchmarked by the barefeats site (using the other Logic test) which I also replicated sucessfully in my machine:

https://barefeats.com/imac-2019-i9-versus-imac-pro.html
Old 1 week ago
  #132
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I was especting more from my hackintosh due to fastest clock cores.
If I remember well in Evan's benchmark the 8700K has some better results than the xeons of the Mac Pros cheesgraters 5.1. In this test appear that are quite similar.
Just did a test with my 9900k Hackintosh.
i9 9900k, Gigabyte Z390 Designare, 64 GB RAM.

152 tracks, 128 Buffer, Metric Halo ULN-2 3D.
Logic 10.4.5, macOS High Sierra 10.13.6

I haven't tried using the internal audio yet. I also don't know if that's the absolute limit of the machine yet... Right now I have it overclocked to 4.7 Ghz. It's been completely stable, until running this test


Once I got to 152 tracks the machine locked up. Looks like I need to bump my voltage up, not surprised since I didn't Prime95 the machine.. Anyway if I eek out a few more tracks once its stable I'll post back what the actual cutoff I get is...

Anyway just goes to show this really is a true to life CPU torture test for audio... Istat Menus showed 80% CPU on all cores and the CPU was running hotter than anything I'd seen previously...

As far as how these numbers play out in terms of Virtual instruments:
I was able to get a 150 Kontkat instances simultaneously playing back midi. CPU only showed about 30-35% and Logic's CPU meter showed tons of headroom. The libraries were pretty typical stuff with a reasonable CPU footprint... Novo/Forzo, Spitfire, 8Dio, etc..

Once I have have a chance to see what the kontakt limit is I'll post back as it would be interesting to see how this test correlates to a common VI like Kontakt...
Old 1 week ago
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Just did a test with my 9900k Hackintosh.
i9 9900k, Gigabyte Z390 Designare, 64 GB RAM.

152 tracks, 128 Buffer, Metric Halo ULN-2 3D.
Logic 10.4.5, macOS High Sierra 10.13.6

I haven't tried using the internal audio yet. I also don't know if that's the absolute limit of the machine yet... Right now I have it overclocked to 4.7 Ghz. It's been completely stable, until running this test


Once I got to 152 tracks the machine locked up. Looks like I need to bump my voltage up, not surprised since I didn't Prime95 the machine.. Anyway if I eek out a few more tracks once its stable I'll post back what the actual cutoff I get is...

Anyway just goes to show this really is a true to life CPU torture test for audio... Istat Menus showed 80% CPU on all cores and the CPU was running hotter than anything I'd seen previously...

As far as how these numbers play out in terms of Virtual instruments:
I was able to get a 150 Kontkat instances simultaneously playing back midi. CPU only showed about 30-35% and Logic's CPU meter showed tons of headroom. The libraries were pretty typical stuff with a reasonable CPU footprint... Novo/Forzo, Spitfire, 8Dio, etc..

Once I have have a chance to see what the kontakt limit is I'll post back as it would be interesting to see how this test correlates to a common VI like Kontakt...
I am sure your machine should score better, maybe some tweaks in BIOS. My i7-7820x is almost the same chip according to spec and optimization
Old 1 week ago
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Just did a quick test with LPX 10.4.6. 69 tracks with a MBP 2018 i7 2.2 (O/S 10.13.6, 32GB, 1TB). That's similar, but slightly lower than with LPX 10.4.1, when I managed 72 tracks. Probably within the margin of error given fluctuating temps and when I last rebooted the machine.
Old 4 days ago
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I am sure your machine should score better, maybe some tweaks in BIOS. My i7-7820x is almost the same chip according to spec and optimization
Definitely not my BIOS. Not only did I follow the guide for my MOBO to the letter, each tweak I tried outside of overclocking resulted in either failing to boot or issues with peripherals or macOS... Also XMP is set to profile 1...

One thing that may very well have been happening was I noticed that spotlight was indexing pretty heavily after I posted. I'd added a ton of new files and activity monitor showed mds stores and mdworker using a pretty hefty amount of CPU... Will see what happens when I try it with spotlight idling between 0 and 1%.

Are you running an all core overclock on your machine? Mine's just a 'vanilla' overclock, didn't try messing with all core settings yet... (1st time overclocking a machine so still kind of green in that department...
Old 2 days ago
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I am testing out a Refurb 2019 iMac i9, 580X, 1TB SSD, with 32GB 2400 RAM (borrowed from my 2017 machine) added to the 8G it came with. I am only using the built in audio and getting like 115 tracks at 44.1kHz any buffer from 128 to 1024. The CPU is full on except the last core and fans are going strong This seems to be far less than others with similar machines are getting. Any thoughts?

I want to make sure all is right with the machine before the 2 week return period runs out...

LPX Benchmark
i5 3.8GHz 8G ram, 1TB SSD 580
Built in Output 128 med buffer
44.1kHz 38 tracks 4GHz 80degC 1299 rpm
96kHz 15 tracks 4GHz 80degC 1200 rpm

i9 3.6GHz 40G ram, 1TB SSD 580X
Built in Output 128 med buffer
44.1kHz 117 tracks 3.9GHz 94degC 1800 rom
96kHz 45 tracks 4GHz 94degC 1700 rpm

Last edited by ProPower; 2 days ago at 04:21 AM..
Old 1 day ago
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Hackintosh
5960X 8-Core overclocked to 4.5GHz
32GB DDR4 3200

MacOS 10.13.6

Logic Pro X 10.4.6
Medium, 128

All 128 tracks @ 44.1
Logic uses 1274% (out of 1600% total) CPU usage (CPU is about 4/5 utilized overall or 80%)
This fluctuates as high as 1366%

The CPU gets hot AF though. (78c) I may need to do some maintenance on the case. My CPU is water cooled, but the radiator is a bit dusty and the thermal paste could probably use a re-apply.
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