Quote: Originally Posted by RonGherkins I recognized the components, it was his comments about being a third party re-seller for avid and argosy that sparked my confusion (aka everything came with it and they were just a third party reseller) Ah, see, that's what I thought made things clear. Makes sense that they'd be resellers. If you wanted to purchase a big desk setup, they could put together a working and tested package. Less uncertainty, lead time to commission, made to order. This isn't so unlike the days when you'd order a build-in console and configure your fader packs, your patchbays, automation and monitoring section, bridge and trim. The supplying manufacturer only really built the mixer parts and assembled it for you. Anyway, you didn't have to get specifically derisive.