Quote: Originally Posted by Derek Sivers Sales are WAY up for the independents. Really? This seems counter to almost every conversation I've had with independent label owners, as well as my own experiences. Almost every indie label owner I know who was around before the download revolution says their sales are generally down. Do you mean that sales are WAY up because of things like iTunes and CDBaby whereby there is simply a lot more independent music being released and thus the total gross sales of independent music are up? Or do you mean that the average independent label is selling more albums now than they were pre-download era.