Quote: Originally Posted by Cornish1999 Anyone got any ideas on when this may actually happen? I still can't make up my mind on a tr8 or a brute, or possibly none and just keep it itb Well, Korg announced their Odyssey in Feb. 2014, and then in December, Behringer announced their intentions to make an Odyssey clone. Almost two years later in August 2016, they announced the Deep Mind 12. Then Arturia announces the DrumBrute and a few weeks later, Behringer announces their intentions to make an analog drum machine. So maybe two years from now Behringer will announce a new product that turns out not to be a drum machine!