I'm no pro, do you hear what I hear?

polarcap · 9th November 2006, 02:04 PM

My production skills are infantile but my ears hear what they hear. My son (16) band is recording with a low budget. This is a wip but near complete as I am told, my ears say; over compressed, what snare?, there is an acoustic guitar? flat , no space or little seperation. I'm I off base? What suggestions can I give without doing damage. You know how well 16 year olds take advice.

majortom · 9th November 2006, 02:45 PM

I'd start with the excessive sibilance on the vocals. Probably an artifact of over compression. It's something even a casual listener will pick up on and be annoyed by. All the other stuff their friends probably won't care about. Lifeless drums will still get them chicks :-)

madcowvt · 9th November 2006, 08:40 PM

Hey polar...

I would say (even though it's a pop/radio song) the vocals could come down a bit as well as the guitars. The drums sound all there and that may let them come through better. The bass may need a bit of eq'ing to get it to fill in as well (not really hearing it now?).... .. otherwise... cool tune!

just my .002

polarcap · 10th November 2006, 03:29 PM

Thanks for the input. Opening it up a little I think would help. I'll pass along the comments or throw it on the wall and see if sticks.

KingDaddyO · 10th November 2006, 04:27 PM

Same comments as the other posters here. Good tune & a solid performance

... which will present much better if you/they can reign these items in a bit!

roxxon · 11th November 2006, 06:56 PM

I like the tune.
More bass tonal defintition would help.
The vox could be dropped back a notch.
Good singer.
I like the guitars and the melodies.

This song just need a bit of fine-tweaking.
A little auto-tune on a few lead vocal parts in the chorus will help.

Nice job.

juicylime · 11th November 2006, 07:44 PM

It needs a few tweaks as listed above. I'd also have a more closely mic'ed sound on the hi-hat and have it more up front, expecially when the drummer is playing 16th notes behind the stacatto guitars. I think the hat's make it slightly more demo'ish sounding than the rest. I also think the singer/melody lines are a bit too floaty for the immediacy of that song is maybe asking for. Over all it's a good effort!

I reckon my favourite bit is the sound of some-ones cell phone getting ready to ring just as the song is fading out!

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9th November 2006, 08:40 PM	#3
madcowvt Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 280	Hey polar... I would say (even though it's a pop/radio song) the vocals could come down a bit as well as the guitars. The drums sound all there and that may let them come through better. The bass may need a bit of eq'ing to get it to fill in as well (not really hearing it now?).... .. otherwise... cool tune! just my .002 __________________ www.madcow-productions.com

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KingDaddyO Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,259	Same comments as the other posters here. Good tune & a solid performance ... which will present much better if you/they can reign these items in a bit! __________________ Cheers, Thom Now, when there's no longer surface noise and you actually have the ability to have the most extraordinary dynamic range, people aren't using it. T Bone Burnett The problems that exist in the world today cannot be solved by the level of thinking that created them. Albert Einstein I'm not black, but there's a whole lot of times I wish I could say I'm not white. Frank Zappa

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9th November 2006, 02:45 PM	#2
majortom Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 486	I'd start with the excessive sibilance on the vocals. Probably an artifact of over compression. It's something even a casual listener will pick up on and be annoyed by. All the other stuff their friends probably won't care about. Lifeless drums will still get them chicks :-)

10th November 2006, 03:29 PM	#4
polarcap Gear interested Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4	Thanks for the input. Opening it up a little I think would help. I'll pass along the comments or throw it on the wall and see if sticks.

11th November 2006, 06:56 PM	#6
roxxon Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: burnaby, b.c. canaduh Posts: 810	I like the tune. More bass tonal defintition would help. The vox could be dropped back a notch. Good singer. I like the guitars and the melodies. This song just need a bit of fine-tweaking. A little auto-tune on a few lead vocal parts in the chorus will help. Nice job.

11th November 2006, 07:44 PM	#7
juicylime Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 681	It needs a few tweaks as listed above. I'd also have a more closely mic'ed sound on the hi-hat and have it more up front, expecially when the drummer is playing 16th notes behind the stacatto guitars. I think the hat's make it slightly more demo'ish sounding than the rest. I also think the singer/melody lines are a bit too floaty for the immediacy of that song is maybe asking for. Over all it's a good effort! I reckon my favourite bit is the sound of some-ones cell phone getting ready to ring just as the song is fading out!