Critique this mix

NowandThen · 8th September 2006, 05:34 PM

I am open for any suggestions. Rip the shit out of it. I am a young Engineer trying to learn more.
Thank You,
Chris
-Now and Then Studios-

roxxon · 8th September 2006, 08:55 PM

Some cool sounds are happening on that track.
I like the song.
The overall mix sounds pretty good to me.
The drums could be turned down a half notch.
Vox are very interesting, to say the least.

That's for the post and for the listen.

NowandThen · 8th September 2006, 09:50 PM

Thanks for listening I kind of thought the drums were a bit loud too. What do you mean about the vox? Its not me singing so I wont take any offence.
Thanks again,
-Chris-

roxxon · 8th September 2006, 09:55 PM

He's a decent singer.
He's got style, a different one.
That's cool.

The drums are a bit loud.

Overall it's a pretty cool mix.

NowandThen · 8th September 2006, 10:00 PM

Cool thanks for your help. Much appreciated!
-Chris-

djui5 · 8th September 2006, 10:52 PM

drums are loud for sure. Toms are sticking out a lot also. The delay on the vox isn't in proper time, and sounds really strange. Guitars need more mids, they sound very highendish, no meat either. Cymballs/HH are too "bright". Rythm guitar during solo needs to come wayyyy down, make room for the solo. Vox needs to stand out front on this song.

Cool song though :) Mix is a trainwreck. Nothing personal.

JHOOKS · 8th September 2006, 11:20 PM

all in all, I like the ideas! being a "young enigneer" you have a very good concept of what you are trying to go for. It takes a lot of experience to get it right though.

NowandThen · 9th September 2006, 01:51 AM

Thanks for ripping it to shreds for me. It’s the only way to learn. Keep it coming.
-Chris-

rwhitney · 9th September 2006, 07:44 AM

The negatives that came immediately to mind were

1. Vocal is veiled, slightly muffled. As is the whole track to some extent. Whole track needs to be brighter without being harsh, and have a little "air", which is spacially, as well as frequency, determined.
2. Doesn't have the stereo width I'd like to hear, same with depth, though to a lesser extent. Maybe pan things wider and put different things on different sides? Create front to back space with early reflections, delays and reverbs. Try different reverbs on different sources. A different sanre reverb, for example, is usually a good thing (maybe you already did that?)
3. What's that noise in the beginning?

But it's good in a lot of ways; I'm not at all bashing the mix or song it all.

NowandThen · 9th September 2006, 07:20 PM

Thank you for the great Ideas. The noise in the beging is a rain storm sample with korg ms20 sythy thing going on.
Thanks again for the help.
-Chris-

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8th September 2006, 10:52 PM	#6
djui5 Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Phoenix Posts: 6,680	drums are loud for sure. Toms are sticking out a lot also. The delay on the vox isn't in proper time, and sounds really strange. Guitars need more mids, they sound very highendish, no meat either. Cymballs/HH are too "bright". Rythm guitar during solo needs to come wayyyy down, make room for the solo. Vox needs to stand out front on this song. Cool song though :) Mix is a trainwreck. Nothing personal. __________________ _________________ "What is a crossfire hurricane & why wasn't I born in one?" Randy Wright http://www.myspace.com/djui5

9th September 2006, 07:44 AM	#9
rwhitney Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 884	The negatives that came immediately to mind were 1. Vocal is veiled, slightly muffled. As is the whole track to some extent. Whole track needs to be brighter without being harsh, and have a little "air", which is spacially, as well as frequency, determined. 2. Doesn't have the stereo width I'd like to hear, same with depth, though to a lesser extent. Maybe pan things wider and put different things on different sides? Create front to back space with early reflections, delays and reverbs. Try different reverbs on different sources. A different sanre reverb, for example, is usually a good thing (maybe you already did that?) 3. What's that noise in the beginning? But it's good in a lot of ways; I'm not at all bashing the mix or song it all. __________________ Ross Whitney (non-professional) rwhitney@uci.edu

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8th September 2006, 08:55 PM	#2
roxxon Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: burnaby, b.c. canaduh Posts: 810	Some cool sounds are happening on that track. I like the song. The overall mix sounds pretty good to me. The drums could be turned down a half notch. Vox are very interesting, to say the least. That's for the post and for the listen.

8th September 2006, 09:50 PM	#3
NowandThen Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Redondo Beach Posts: 53	Thanks for listening I kind of thought the drums were a bit loud too. What do you mean about the vox? Its not me singing so I wont take any offence. Thanks again, -Chris-

8th September 2006, 09:55 PM	#4
roxxon Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: burnaby, b.c. canaduh Posts: 810	He's a decent singer. He's got style, a different one. That's cool. The drums are a bit loud. Overall it's a pretty cool mix.

8th September 2006, 10:00 PM	#5
NowandThen Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Redondo Beach Posts: 53	Cool thanks for your help. Much appreciated! -Chris-

8th September 2006, 11:20 PM	#7
JHOOKS Gear addict Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 458	all in all, I like the ideas! being a "young enigneer" you have a very good concept of what you are trying to go for. It takes a lot of experience to get it right though.

9th September 2006, 01:51 AM	#8
NowandThen Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Redondo Beach Posts: 53	Thanks for ripping it to shreds for me. It’s the only way to learn. Keep it coming. -Chris-

9th September 2006, 07:20 PM	#10
NowandThen Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Redondo Beach Posts: 53	Thank you for the great Ideas. The noise in the beging is a rain storm sample with korg ms20 sythy thing going on. Thanks again for the help. -Chris-