17 yr old F S/S Seeks Critique

noobtoob · 9th July 2006, 03:50 PM

I'm helping the young 17 yr old female singer/songwriter daughter of a friend of mine record her first album. All comments welcome.

http://www.christopherhall.ca/kendra...ondthought.mp3

Thanks!

roxxon · 9th July 2006, 07:49 PM

Lots of potential.
Nice voice.
Good song.

Thanks for the listen.

djui5 · 9th July 2006, 10:11 PM

Yeah, starts off good for an acoustic song. Hard to say where it goes though.

strings · 11th July 2006, 02:19 AM

Nice Voice; good writing for 17 years old! Sounds good to me.
I really like how the backing vocals are done...how did you do that?

noobtoob · 11th July 2006, 02:46 AM

The backgrounds were done with classic double tracking and panning. Just layers. The sound and the harmonies are all Kendra.

Thanks for the comment!

strings · 11th July 2006, 03:42 AM

I should have said "what did you use for effects"?
There seems to be a reverb or delay of some sort on the backing.
Did you offset the timing slightly?
Whatever you did it came out nice; kendra did a good job too.

truth123123 · 11th July 2006, 04:36 AM

sounds real nice...i like it

hey whats yor set-up, mic,pre,pc.....etc,etc

noobtoob · 11th July 2006, 09:01 PM

Thanks again for the input. The artist was recorded with a 4050 into a little Bear pre and then to a dbx 266 and into delta1010/logic pro6. Just a little compression on the way in and no eq. A little more compression during mix with eq and de-ess. Backgrounds are doubled parts which she sung- in all 4 layers both right and left with just a little compression, eq and reverb. The guitar is an old Fender 12-string, also recorded like the vocals, but with a Rode NTK. Then applied classic ADT- copies right and left with delay. A touch more compression across the mix buss and that's it!

Kendra is pretty talented for a 17 yr old, especially around where we live, writing, singing and playing guitar.

By the way, did I mention she can also play the drums? Please comment on this:

http://www.christopherhall.ca/kendragale/mp3/last.mp3

Thanks again!

strings · 12th July 2006, 06:31 AM

Thanks for posting the information about your setup.
No question about it, Kendra is a versatile, talented young lady.

I went to your website and see your from my neck of the woods (New Brunswick). I'm originally from Chatham (Miramichier). I have a niece down there who sings and plays in bars occasionally. Kendra and her would probably sound good jamming together if they didn't live so far apart.
I have a poorly recorded song of her singing (and playing guitar) "Me and Bobby McGee" live at a bar. Check it out if you get a chance.

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page...m?bandID=52404

bstring

p.s. I forgot to mention, after several listens now "Second Thought" has really taken hold. For a song with just guitar and vocals, that pretty much speaks for itself.

Sammy · 12th July 2006, 01:48 PM

Nice vibe going on there, but there's some serious intonation issues? Esp. at the beginning of sentences, lead+backings really should be tighter together IMO.

chillhuman · 12th July 2006, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sammy

Nice vibe going on there, but there's some serious intonation issues? Esp. at the beginning of sentences, lead+backings really should be tighter together IMO.

Agreed. Good voice, no doubt, but needs to keep singing it until it's right.

strings · 12th July 2006, 10:17 PM

No offense to the previous post and I'm not qualified to speak of intonation, but the slight offset of the backing vocals is what makes it sound unique to me.
As you know, music affects people in different ways.
I also like how the lead vocals are almost a conversation in the chorus while the backing are doing the singing.

Sammy · 12th July 2006, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strings

but the slight offset of the backing vocals is what makes it sound unique to me.

Well, there ya have it, both sides of the story. Let the jury make up the verdict

Drumblast · 13th July 2006, 05:31 AM

Needs work on diction. She kinda mumbles and morphs her words.

noobtoob · 13th July 2006, 08:58 PM

Thanks again for the comments. I have suggested to her and to her mom/manager that they seek out a vocal coach, so she can make better use of what she has and will improve all that has been commented on here. As far as the backgrounds and harmony, I do suppose its a matter of taste- some who hear it say it rubs a bit and others love it. To my ear its good.

Thanks again.

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9th July 2006, 03:50 PM	#1
noobtoob Gear interested Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22	17 yr old F S/S Seeks Critique I'm helping the young 17 yr old female singer/songwriter daughter of a friend of mine record her first album. All comments welcome. http://www.christopherhall.ca/kendra...ondthought.mp3 Thanks! __________________ Nigel Tufnel: Do you remember the engineer said, "We don't need all 16 tracks?" Derek Smalls: I know! He sold off 4 of them to another band! Last edited by noobtoob; 9th July 2006 at 04:29 PM.. Reason: Adding more info

9th July 2006, 10:11 PM	#3
djui5 Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Phoenix Posts: 6,680	Yeah, starts off good for an acoustic song. Hard to say where it goes though. __________________ _________________ "What is a crossfire hurricane & why wasn't I born in one?" Randy Wright http://www.myspace.com/djui5

11th July 2006, 02:46 AM	#5
noobtoob Gear interested Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22	The backgrounds were done with classic double tracking and panning. Just layers. The sound and the harmonies are all Kendra. Thanks for the comment! __________________ Nigel Tufnel: Do you remember the engineer said, "We don't need all 16 tracks?" Derek Smalls: I know! He sold off 4 of them to another band!

11th July 2006, 09:01 PM	#8
noobtoob Gear interested Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22	Thanks again for the input. The artist was recorded with a 4050 into a little Bear pre and then to a dbx 266 and into delta1010/logic pro6. Just a little compression on the way in and no eq. A little more compression during mix with eq and de-ess. Backgrounds are doubled parts which she sung- in all 4 layers both right and left with just a little compression, eq and reverb. The guitar is an old Fender 12-string, also recorded like the vocals, but with a Rode NTK. Then applied classic ADT- copies right and left with delay. A touch more compression across the mix buss and that's it! Kendra is pretty talented for a 17 yr old, especially around where we live, writing, singing and playing guitar. By the way, did I mention she can also play the drums? Please comment on this: http://www.christopherhall.ca/kendragale/mp3/last.mp3 Thanks again! __________________ Nigel Tufnel: Do you remember the engineer said, "We don't need all 16 tracks?" Derek Smalls: I know! He sold off 4 of them to another band!

9th July 2006, 07:49 PM	#2
roxxon Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: burnaby, b.c. canaduh Posts: 810	Lots of potential. Nice voice. Good song. Thanks for the listen.

11th July 2006, 02:19 AM	#4
strings Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 183	Nice Voice; good writing for 17 years old! Sounds good to me. I really like how the backing vocals are done...how did you do that?

11th July 2006, 03:42 AM	#6
strings Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 183	I should have said "what did you use for effects"? There seems to be a reverb or delay of some sort on the backing. Did you offset the timing slightly? Whatever you did it came out nice; kendra did a good job too.

11th July 2006, 04:36 AM	#7
truth123123 Gear nut Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 122	sounds real nice...i like it hey whats yor set-up, mic,pre,pc.....etc,etc

12th July 2006, 06:31 AM	#9
strings Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 183	Thanks for posting the information about your setup. No question about it, Kendra is a versatile, talented young lady. I went to your website and see your from my neck of the woods (New Brunswick). I'm originally from Chatham (Miramichier). I have a niece down there who sings and plays in bars occasionally. Kendra and her would probably sound good jamming together if they didn't live so far apart. I have a poorly recorded song of her singing (and playing guitar) "Me and Bobby McGee" live at a bar. Check it out if you get a chance. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page...m?bandID=52404 bstring p.s. I forgot to mention, after several listens now "Second Thought" has really taken hold. For a song with just guitar and vocals, that pretty much speaks for itself.

12th July 2006, 01:48 PM	#10
Sammy Gear maniac Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 186	Nice vibe going on there, but there's some serious intonation issues? Esp. at the beginning of sentences, lead+backings really should be tighter together IMO.

12th July 2006, 10:17 PM	#12
strings Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 183	No offense to the previous post and I'm not qualified to speak of intonation, but the slight offset of the backing vocals is what makes it sound unique to me. As you know, music affects people in different ways. I also like how the lead vocals are almost a conversation in the chorus while the backing are doing the singing.

13th July 2006, 05:31 AM	#14
Drumblast Gear interested Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: va usa Posts: 2	Needs work on diction. She kinda mumbles and morphs her words. __________________ www.modulusmusic.net

13th July 2006, 08:58 PM	#15
noobtoob Gear interested Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22	Thanks again for the comments. I have suggested to her and to her mom/manager that they seek out a vocal coach, so she can make better use of what she has and will improve all that has been commented on here. As far as the backgrounds and harmony, I do suppose its a matter of taste- some who hear it say it rubs a bit and others love it. To my ear its good. Thanks again. __________________ Nigel Tufnel: Do you remember the engineer said, "We don't need all 16 tracks?" Derek Smalls: I know! He sold off 4 of them to another band!

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