First Drum recording in treated low ceiling 10X10 room

Jason Poulin · 29th April 2006, 04:27 AM

Here's a clip of us foolin around and testing the room sound in the studio after completing the bass traps and broadband absorbers.

Hope you like!

You can hear the cheap setup on the snare's gate... hey this was for fun!

Jason

Jason Poulin · 29th April 2006, 04:28 AM

ps: I don't why but when I convert a file to mp3 using Itunes, it decides to name it after some Latin romance love song.

Strange!

Jason

treymonfauntre · 29th April 2006, 04:55 AM

this sounds very tight/precise
what mics did you use, if you don't mind telling! i'm really enjoying those toms.

Cojo · 29th April 2006, 10:29 PM

I agree! The toms are really great! Good work on that room!

/Cojo

Reg · 29th April 2006, 11:39 PM

Glad you're liking the drums!

I'll tell you before treating the room... they sucked!

Toms are sennheiser 604's through API 3124

Snare is beta 56 through great river MP2-NV, GR EQ-2NV, Distressor
Kick is Beta 52 and same chain as snare

OH's are KM184's in XY through two Avalon VT-737's, RMS 755 compressor

Room is AEA R84 through API

All tracks in @ 32bit-48K from Apogee AD 16X

reverb is a slight touch of UAD140 plate but for the session I'm anxious to put the KSP8 to the test!

Thank you for listening... drums are going great so far

Jason (logged under my dad's nickname)

SRS · 30th April 2006, 12:14 AM

Sounds very nice. Can you post a few pics of the room and treatments and the mics/kit. If you cannot do pics, then can you describe the room (floor) and acoustics. This is one of the best sounds I have heard from a small room that is square in dimensions and with a low ceiling to boot. A very solid sound indeed. What tracks did you apply that (UAD140) reverb to? I am very impressed. You are there...

djui5 · 30th April 2006, 12:17 AM

Sounds good Jason.

Might wanna play with that kick placement a bit.

Reg · 30th April 2006, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SRS

Sounds very nice. Can you post a few pics of the room and treatments and the mics/kit. If you cannot do pics, then can you describe the room (floor) and acoustics. This is one of the best sounds I have heard from a small room that is square in dimensions and with a low ceiling to boot. A very solid sound indeed. What tracks did you apply that (UAD140) reverb to? I am very impressed. You are there...

Here you go>Treating Studio Rooms - pictures added

SRS · 30th April 2006, 01:19 AM

Thanks. I actually bumped into the thread while cruising the other parts of GS. I see this was a long project for you. I too did 703 throughout my room, but did not do frames. I covered them with burlap and also built 4 diffusors which are framed of course. The diffusors are filled with the 703 covered in burlap as well. Working out well. I built them a bit over 2 years ago, and am thinking of doing more. Most of mine are 2 inch with the exception of 4 panels that are doubled up and 4 inches deep. What is your floor now? Concrete, carpet, hardwood?

Your dad looks like a cool dude!

Jason Poulin · 30th April 2006, 02:20 AM

floor is a comercial type carpet covering cement.

UAD140 plate was applied to the toms/snare/overheads through aux send/return

Man I love that Great River EQ... it's absolutely insane!

Jason

SRS · 30th April 2006, 05:05 AM

Yes, you have a good chain going there. What kind of kit is this? It sounds nice. The toms are ripping with great low end. I noticed you are right up there with the levels too, and punchy as all hell. Did you comp or limit the mix? If so, with what? So I understand the flooring is that real thin commercial carpet on top of concrete... If it is what I am thinking of, it is very thin and not doing much but knocking down some reflections mostly, but not sucking up your highs really or mids. You have a good sound going there for a small tracking room. You have done well.

Jason Poulin · 30th April 2006, 03:39 PM

Thanks SRS

The kit is Pearl, I can get back to you on the exact model.

Drummer is a hard hitter and giving an almost natural punch compression.

The mix has an RComp on the buss doing a -3db comp for fun. I would use something else for a real mix.

Tom sound comes moslty from the Overheads and accented with the 604's but those API's are lovely on Toms!!

Kick and Snare have a distressor doing -3 @ 2:1 on kick and snare -5@2:1 all with HP filter and Distortion 3 mode on.

I hit the converters at about 0dbVU = -16dbfs

And the commercial carpet is very thin and though like material.

I can post pics very shoretly.

Jason

Axiz7 · 30th April 2006, 03:54 PM

Jason,

Real nice!

Couldn't ask for much more than that.

SRS · 30th April 2006, 05:42 PM

Jason,

Right on. Thanks for the elaboration on the setup. If it is a Pearl kit, sounds like a "Session Series" model if I were to guess... I use the RComp often as well. Not a bad plug. What did you record the tracks to? A Mac/pc/software or external recorder? Any tape in there? Sorry to bug on all the questions, but just had a few final ones for you. Gotta spread the knowledge like the sluts we are.

treymonfauntre · 30th April 2006, 07:46 PM

its crazy how quiet the cymbals are, this guy must have tons of restraint

Axiz7 · 30th April 2006, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treymonfauntre

its crazy how quiet the cymbals are, this guy must have tons of restraint

Thinkin' the same here...or were the overheads out front?

Jason Poulin · 30th April 2006, 09:11 PM

SRS: no worries about the questions.... I'm here to help and to be helped by others. The drums are Pearl Export Series. Very good sounding drums.

Overheads are slightly out in front and on that track, they are turned down a tad to the overall kit... there is a room mic also picking up the meat R84. OH's played a big part here.

He's really hitting the living daylights out of the shells on this kit and taking it easy on the brass. (He's learning to drum in the studio)

Anything else comes to mind, don't hesitate to ask... I'll pop in to check in between takes.

thanks

Jason

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29th April 2006, 04:27 AM	#1
Jason Poulin Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sudbury, On. Canada Posts: 1,686	First Drum recording in treated low ceiling 10X10 room Here's a clip of us foolin around and testing the room sound in the studio after completing the bass traps and broadband absorbers. Hope you like! You can hear the cheap setup on the snare's gate... hey this was for fun! Jason __________________ most important gear I own are my ears! visit my band www.apparatusmusic.com www.myspace.com/apparatusnumetal

29th April 2006, 04:28 AM	#2
Jason Poulin Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sudbury, On. Canada Posts: 1,686	ps: I don't why but when I convert a file to mp3 using Itunes, it decides to name it after some Latin romance love song. Strange! Jason __________________ most important gear I own are my ears! visit my band www.apparatusmusic.com www.myspace.com/apparatusnumetal

29th April 2006, 10:29 PM	#4
Cojo Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Gothenburg, Sweden! Posts: 1,466	I agree! The toms are really great! Good work on that room! /Cojo __________________ Conny Johansson [ www.asteroidkiller.com ]

30th April 2006, 12:14 AM	#6
SRS Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 409	Sounds very nice. Can you post a few pics of the room and treatments and the mics/kit. If you cannot do pics, then can you describe the room (floor) and acoustics. This is one of the best sounds I have heard from a small room that is square in dimensions and with a low ceiling to boot. A very solid sound indeed. What tracks did you apply that (UAD140) reverb to? I am very impressed. You are there... __________________ Solution Room Studios Myspace Page

29th April 2006, 04:55 AM	#3
treymonfauntre Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 567	this sounds very tight/precise what mics did you use, if you don't mind telling! i'm really enjoying those toms.

29th April 2006, 11:39 PM	#5
Reg Gear nut Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 86	Glad you're liking the drums! I'll tell you before treating the room... they sucked! Toms are sennheiser 604's through API 3124 Snare is beta 56 through great river MP2-NV, GR EQ-2NV, Distressor Kick is Beta 52 and same chain as snare OH's are KM184's in XY through two Avalon VT-737's, RMS 755 compressor Room is AEA R84 through API All tracks in @ 32bit-48K from Apogee AD 16X reverb is a slight touch of UAD140 plate but for the session I'm anxious to put the KSP8 to the test! Thank you for listening... drums are going great so far Jason (logged under my dad's nickname)

30th April 2006, 12:17 AM	#7
djui5 Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Phoenix Posts: 6,680	Sounds good Jason. Might wanna play with that kick placement a bit. __________________ _________________ "What is a crossfire hurricane & why wasn't I born in one?" Randy Wright http://www.myspace.com/djui5

30th April 2006, 01:19 AM	#9
SRS Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 409	Thanks. I actually bumped into the thread while cruising the other parts of GS. I see this was a long project for you. I too did 703 throughout my room, but did not do frames. I covered them with burlap and also built 4 diffusors which are framed of course. The diffusors are filled with the 703 covered in burlap as well. Working out well. I built them a bit over 2 years ago, and am thinking of doing more. Most of mine are 2 inch with the exception of 4 panels that are doubled up and 4 inches deep. What is your floor now? Concrete, carpet, hardwood? Your dad looks like a cool dude! __________________ Solution Room Studios Myspace Page

30th April 2006, 02:20 AM	#10
Jason Poulin Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sudbury, On. Canada Posts: 1,686	floor is a comercial type carpet covering cement. UAD140 plate was applied to the toms/snare/overheads through aux send/return Man I love that Great River EQ... it's absolutely insane! Jason __________________ most important gear I own are my ears! visit my band www.apparatusmusic.com www.myspace.com/apparatusnumetal

30th April 2006, 05:05 AM	#11
SRS Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 409	Yes, you have a good chain going there. What kind of kit is this? It sounds nice. The toms are ripping with great low end. I noticed you are right up there with the levels too, and punchy as all hell. Did you comp or limit the mix? If so, with what? So I understand the flooring is that real thin commercial carpet on top of concrete... If it is what I am thinking of, it is very thin and not doing much but knocking down some reflections mostly, but not sucking up your highs really or mids. You have a good sound going there for a small tracking room. You have done well. __________________ Solution Room Studios Myspace Page

30th April 2006, 03:39 PM	#12
Jason Poulin Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sudbury, On. Canada Posts: 1,686	Thanks SRS The kit is Pearl, I can get back to you on the exact model. Drummer is a hard hitter and giving an almost natural punch compression. The mix has an RComp on the buss doing a -3db comp for fun. I would use something else for a real mix. Tom sound comes moslty from the Overheads and accented with the 604's but those API's are lovely on Toms!! Kick and Snare have a distressor doing -3 @ 2:1 on kick and snare -5@2:1 all with HP filter and Distortion 3 mode on. I hit the converters at about 0dbVU = -16dbfs And the commercial carpet is very thin and though like material. I can post pics very shoretly. Jason __________________ most important gear I own are my ears! visit my band www.apparatusmusic.com www.myspace.com/apparatusnumetal

30th April 2006, 03:54 PM	#13
Axiz7 Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 186	Jason, Real nice! Couldn't ask for much more than that.

30th April 2006, 05:42 PM	#14
SRS Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 409	Jason, Right on. Thanks for the elaboration on the setup. If it is a Pearl kit, sounds like a "Session Series" model if I were to guess... I use the RComp often as well. Not a bad plug. What did you record the tracks to? A Mac/pc/software or external recorder? Any tape in there? Sorry to bug on all the questions, but just had a few final ones for you. Gotta spread the knowledge like the sluts we are. __________________ Solution Room Studios Myspace Page

30th April 2006, 07:46 PM	#15
treymonfauntre Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 567	its crazy how quiet the cymbals are, this guy must have tons of restraint

30th April 2006, 09:11 PM	#17
Jason Poulin Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sudbury, On. Canada Posts: 1,686	SRS: no worries about the questions.... I'm here to help and to be helped by others. The drums are Pearl Export Series. Very good sounding drums. Overheads are slightly out in front and on that track, they are turned down a tad to the overall kit... there is a room mic also picking up the meat R84. OH's played a big part here. He's really hitting the living daylights out of the shells on this kit and taking it easy on the brass. (He's learning to drum in the studio) Anything else comes to mind, don't hesitate to ask... I'll pop in to check in between takes. thanks Jason __________________ most important gear I own are my ears! visit my band www.apparatusmusic.com www.myspace.com/apparatusnumetal

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