Advice sought - acoustic rock!

Recording David · 24th January 2006, 04:44 PM

My bread and butter is classical and jazz, but I've recorded a few acoustic rock tracks with a friend just for fun. Any comments on the recording/mixing of this track would be very welcome - anything at all. There is a guitar timing error near the end that I haven't edited out yet so don't point that out!

All mixed ITB using Logic. Cheers guys.

adrianex · 24th January 2006, 05:52 PM

I like the song, but I would like to hear it with the drums a little bit more in front, I feel its too back there. The song overall sound to me a little bit simple but I guess it works

Everything else sonded goo to me

Andreas G · 24th January 2006, 06:12 PM

Sounds better in mono to me... I mean something sounds pretty phasy, I think it's the acoustic guitar? The overall balance betwin the instrument is really fine. Though for the overall tonal balance I'd like to hear a bit more meat in the lowmids/lows, less highend and therefor maybe a touch more uppermids (betwin 3-4K).
Just a thought... Andreas

Recording David · 25th January 2006, 08:53 AM

Thanks for the comments guys. I've just looked over the Logic project again and it seems I bounced it with the guitar effects bus bypassed. Duh!

djui5 · 25th January 2006, 09:08 AM

somethings sierously out of phase....like the stereo buss or something. Plus it sounds like it's all panned center in mono...

Did you remove the vocals from a Corr's song? That would explain it..

Recording David · 25th January 2006, 09:15 AM

I'll go back and have a look at it! No, I recorded the vocals myself and it's not all panned centre. Thanks for the feedback.

limeni · 25th January 2006, 09:57 AM

I think it i good idea. It's good. guitar phase is not right.

Recording David · 25th January 2006, 12:11 PM

Fixed it I think. New file attached - any more comments gratefully received! Thank you.

limeni · 25th January 2006, 12:38 PM

Please can you tell me what ger you use for this song( Mic's, PreAmp's , Compressors...).
Thanks!

Recording David · 25th January 2006, 12:56 PM

Hi - vocals on a U87 into Avalon 737, guitar: 2 x Schoeps MK5 to 2 Avalon 737, bass: DI into 737, drums kick D112, snare SM-57, overheads 2 x Schoeps MK5, drum preamps were Mackie Onyx. Drum ADC was an Apogee AD-16, all other parts used a Troisi stereo companion ADC.

Compressors used - Avalon 737, Logic compressor
EQ - HydraTone & ValveTone
All other effects were Logic's onboard plugins.

limeni · 25th January 2006, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Recording David

Hi - vocals on a U87 into Avalon 737, guitar: 2 x Schoeps MK5 to 2 Avalon 737, bass: DI into 737, drums kick D112, snare SM-57, overheads 2 x Schoeps MK5, drum preamps were Mackie Onyx. Drum ADC was an Apogee AD-16, all other parts used a Troisi stereo companion ADC.

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Thanks!

LiMeNi

djui5 · 25th January 2006, 05:18 PM

sounds better...whatever you did.

Timothy Lawler · 26th January 2006, 09:42 PM

The second mix sounds very good. Nice balance between the guitar and drumset in level and soundstage depth. Interesting bass line but it gets lost some of the time, maybe EQ slightly to emphasise overtones a bit more for clearer articulation.

Tim

Recording David · 27th January 2006, 09:01 AM

Thanks for taking the time to reply everyone. I'll do the same v. soon for others - I can't at the moment as my studio computer is temporarily unconnected to the net while our new ADSL is set up, so I'm in the office doing this now.

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24th January 2006, 04:44 PM	#1
Recording David Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 649	Advice sought - acoustic rock! My bread and butter is classical and jazz, but I've recorded a few acoustic rock tracks with a friend just for fun. Any comments on the recording/mixing of this track would be very welcome - anything at all. There is a guitar timing error near the end that I haven't edited out yet so don't point that out! All mixed ITB using Logic. Cheers guys.

25th January 2006, 09:08 AM	#5
djui5 Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Phoenix Posts: 6,680	somethings sierously out of phase....like the stereo buss or something. Plus it sounds like it's all panned center in mono... Did you remove the vocals from a Corr's song? That would explain it.. __________________ _________________ "What is a crossfire hurricane & why wasn't I born in one?" Randy Wright http://www.myspace.com/djui5

25th January 2006, 12:38 PM	#9
limeni Gear interested Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 17	question? Please can you tell me what ger you use for this song( Mic's, PreAmp's , Compressors...). Thanks!

25th January 2006, 05:18 PM	#12
djui5 Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Phoenix Posts: 6,680	sounds better...whatever you did. __________________ _________________ "What is a crossfire hurricane & why wasn't I born in one?" Randy Wright http://www.myspace.com/djui5

24th January 2006, 05:52 PM	#2
adrianex Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 709	I like the song, but I would like to hear it with the drums a little bit more in front, I feel its too back there. The song overall sound to me a little bit simple but I guess it works Everything else sonded goo to me

24th January 2006, 06:12 PM	#3
Andreas G Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 778	Sounds better in mono to me... I mean something sounds pretty phasy, I think it's the acoustic guitar? The overall balance betwin the instrument is really fine. Though for the overall tonal balance I'd like to hear a bit more meat in the lowmids/lows, less highend and therefor maybe a touch more uppermids (betwin 3-4K). Just a thought... Andreas

25th January 2006, 08:53 AM	#4
Recording David Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 649	Thanks for the comments guys. I've just looked over the Logic project again and it seems I bounced it with the guitar effects bus bypassed. Duh!

25th January 2006, 09:15 AM	#6
Recording David Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 649	I'll go back and have a look at it! No, I recorded the vocals myself and it's not all panned centre. Thanks for the feedback.

25th January 2006, 09:57 AM	#7
limeni Gear interested Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Zagreb, Croatia Posts: 17	I think it i good idea. It's good. guitar phase is not right.

25th January 2006, 12:11 PM	#8
Recording David Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 649	Fixed it I think. New file attached - any more comments gratefully received! Thank you.

25th January 2006, 12:56 PM	#10
Recording David Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 649	Hi - vocals on a U87 into Avalon 737, guitar: 2 x Schoeps MK5 to 2 Avalon 737, bass: DI into 737, drums kick D112, snare SM-57, overheads 2 x Schoeps MK5, drum preamps were Mackie Onyx. Drum ADC was an Apogee AD-16, all other parts used a Troisi stereo companion ADC. Compressors used - Avalon 737, Logic compressor EQ - HydraTone & ValveTone All other effects were Logic's onboard plugins.

26th January 2006, 09:42 PM	#13
Timothy Lawler Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 195	The second mix sounds very good. Nice balance between the guitar and drumset in level and soundstage depth. Interesting bass line but it gets lost some of the time, maybe EQ slightly to emphasise overtones a bit more for clearer articulation. Tim

27th January 2006, 09:01 AM	#14
Recording David Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 649	Thanks for taking the time to reply everyone. I'll do the same v. soon for others - I can't at the moment as my studio computer is temporarily unconnected to the net while our new ADSL is set up, so I'm in the office doing this now.

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