Where's the bass-player!?

VictorQ · 23rd July 2005, 11:36 PM

This is my very first post on gearslutz... I just blew my very last cash on a matched 414 XLII-pair, so i'm posting in gear forums on a saturday night (all-play-and-no-work session booked in the morning).
I'd like to hear what you all think of this little demo. It's definitely a first for me with this retro rock trio-outfit: Guitar, drums and vocals cut live, a few overdubs (lead-guitar, tambourine, backing vocals). NO BASS!!!

Is this a hopeless case? Does the track come off as lacking low end?
Do people who listen to rock music have subwoofers, anyway (I certainly don't know anyone who does, except myself)?

BTW do you like the band? They won't be reading this, but I'll forward anything positive (that's my job), so just spill the beans!

Oh this is a PT Le ITB mix w/ UAD-1 and a TC M-one for reverb/delay

Rodney Gene · 24th July 2005, 12:05 AM

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Does the track come off as lacking low end?

Yes.

It has zero low-end here...honestly. Mids and top only.

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BTW do you like the band? They won't be reading this, but I'll forward anything positive (that's my job), so just spill the beans

Tell them to keep on truckin...

adamcal · 24th July 2005, 04:05 AM

Need bass!

I also tracked 3 piece hardcore band without a bass player who thought they where being all cool and new, but basically it just sucked and the lack of bass left me cold all day.

this band needs either a huge boomy kik and or a lot of lows on the guitar to try to have at least something rumbling down there.

Billster · 24th July 2005, 03:03 PM

I like the song and the dirty attitude. But they do need a bass, maybe even a li´l distorted or something.

Cheers,
Bill

Guitarl · 25th July 2005, 10:20 PM

Yeah, it needs bass. The only other way to get by would be to make the bass drum huge and mix the guitar back a little. I can't think of another way to make a duo sound monstrous.

satellitelot · 26th July 2005, 12:18 AM

white stripes

VictorQ · 26th July 2005, 07:27 PM

I know the white stripes pull it off, but how!? None of their duo stuff has much low end, yet no-one's really complaining. I guess it must the brilliant songwriting.

Anyway here's another take on the mix. A lot more rumble and a lot less verb.
I just wish i had found out about using the avalon u5 as a kick-mic pre before tracking these guys...

mmyohane · 26th July 2005, 08:07 PM

Sounds excellent. Very tasty drum squashing :) Good work!

username · 27th July 2005, 03:03 PM

aparently (and I can't back this up) the white stripes often do bass tracks on their album and have them running realy low... I havent realy listened to see if this is true though

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24th July 2005, 04:05 AM	#3
adamcal Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,115	Need bass! I also tracked 3 piece hardcore band without a bass player who thought they where being all cool and new, but basically it just sucked and the lack of bass left me cold all day. this band needs either a huge boomy kik and or a lot of lows on the guitar to try to have at least something rumbling down there. __________________ Adam Calaitzis www.toyland.com.au

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Billster Gear addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Hamburg / Old Europe Posts: 441	I like the song and the dirty attitude. But they do need a bass, maybe even a li´l distorted or something. Cheers, Bill __________________ www.forcesense.com www.fs-mastering.com

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Guitarl Gear interested Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sacramento, CA, USA Posts: 11	Yeah, it needs bass. The only other way to get by would be to make the bass drum huge and mix the guitar back a little. I can't think of another way to make a duo sound monstrous. __________________ Karl

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26th July 2005, 12:18 AM	#6
satellitelot Gear Head Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portland, ME Posts: 36	white stripes

26th July 2005, 08:07 PM	#8
mmyohane Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 40	Sounds excellent. Very tasty drum squashing :) Good work!

27th July 2005, 03:03 PM	#9
username Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tasmania, Australia Posts: 265	aparently (and I can't back this up) the white stripes often do bass tracks on their album and have them running realy low... I havent realy listened to see if this is true though