Mix Critique needed for 70's Retro Rock Song!

DjRio · 14th July 2005, 08:07 AM

Hey all --

Im engineering/mixing tracks for this rock group called Fire Murphy... this song is called "Playing With Fire"... I'm wondering if i could get some critique on my mix so far? Any suggestions? I found the song pretty enjoyable to listen to actually... its fun... reminds me of a mix of The Doors/The Who/and.. umm .....Prince.. haha.

Thanks in advance!

Rio

**Jules** · 14th July 2005, 11:45 AM

Does the song ever 'break out"?

It sounds trapped in a permanent break down section..

Will it ever rock out?!

DONT DENY THE ROCK!

ROCK FO EVAH!

woid..

lasso · 14th July 2005, 03:15 PM

Cool....two comments: the voc and tambourine sound too good...I'd put a cheap mono spring reverb on those to mess it up a bit.

Cool dude.

axeman · 14th July 2005, 05:08 PM

I think it´s a cool song, but I´m afraid I find it rather boring to listen to. Everything that happens in the song you get to hear the first 30 seconds. After that you just wait.

I also have a little problem with songphrases in the verse. After each line it´s like the riff just stops and have to start over and over (hard to describe. Hope you know what I mean, or that someone else can tell it better :)).

I feel that the guitars are a little laid back, when they instead should be full of attitude and some kind of edge. I would like to have a guitar track where I can hear that the guitarist really wants to kill the guitar.

Overall I think it´s got potential and I like the sound of the singer, although he could freak out a little more.

DjRio · 15th July 2005, 08:28 AM

Thanks for all the responses!!

I took all your suggestions into consideration and let the band know... they love constructive criticism because they're always trying to improve.

I think they're on to something though cause the song was stuck in my head all day... could be because i sat there recording it for hours though.. :)

And no they don't have a website up yet.. its coming though.

I'll post more of the tracks when they're completed.

Any other suggestions from those who haven't taken a listen yet?

Thanks!

JackInslee · 18th July 2005, 05:01 AM

if you did drums, amazing...

i feel like they are sequenced though. i like this, except the vocals seem way too dry and muddy

djavid15 · 18th July 2005, 07:22 AM

I don't like the bass drum, and I agree that the guitars sit too far back. The other dude singing at about 2:30 bothers me. I feel like the vocal needs some color to it. It sounds too clean. I think it should be a little dirtier. Good job. BRING UP THE CLAPS!

DjRio · 19th July 2005, 06:51 PM

Thanks for the posts!

I've seen a couple now saying the vocals are too clean.

What are some good techniques to add "color" to vocals and dirty them up?

Thanks!

wilkinswp · 19th July 2005, 08:43 PM

Not to flame, but I agree with the others, this tune is dying to break out into some kind of rocking chorus. . . It needs it as it would add immensely to the tune.

lasso · 20th July 2005, 10:47 AM

Run a mult through a guitar amp.
Run a mult through a cheapo efx. unit in bypass mode.
Send the voc through a PA and put a mic somewhere ridiculous and make your own "echochamber".

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14th July 2005, 11:45 AM	#2
Jules Gearslutz.com admin Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 11,669	Does the song ever 'break out"? It sounds trapped in a permanent break down section.. Will it ever rock out?! DONT DENY THE ROCK! ROCK FO EVAH! woid.. __________________ Jules "your requirements are arbitrarily mandating a non-native solution" - Peeder

14th July 2005, 03:15 PM	#3
lasso Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 331	Cool....two comments: the voc and tambourine sound too good...I'd put a cheap mono spring reverb on those to mess it up a bit. Cool dude. __________________ Cheers, Lasso. www.tonekontrol.dk www.myspace.com/supershadecph www.hotmastering.dk

18th July 2005, 07:22 AM	#7
djavid15 Gear maniac Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 223	I don't like the bass drum, and I agree that the guitars sit too far back. The other dude singing at about 2:30 bothers me. I feel like the vocal needs some color to it. It sounds too clean. I think it should be a little dirtier. Good job. BRING UP THE CLAPS! __________________ Dance my minions! DANCE!!!!

20th July 2005, 10:47 AM	#10
lasso Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 331	Run a mult through a guitar amp. Run a mult through a cheapo efx. unit in bypass mode. Send the voc through a PA and put a mic somewhere ridiculous and make your own "echochamber". __________________ Cheers, Lasso. www.tonekontrol.dk www.myspace.com/supershadecph www.hotmastering.dk

14th July 2005, 05:08 PM	#4
axeman Gear nut Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Stockholm Posts: 77	I think it´s a cool song, but I´m afraid I find it rather boring to listen to. Everything that happens in the song you get to hear the first 30 seconds. After that you just wait. I also have a little problem with songphrases in the verse. After each line it´s like the riff just stops and have to start over and over (hard to describe. Hope you know what I mean, or that someone else can tell it better :)). I feel that the guitars are a little laid back, when they instead should be full of attitude and some kind of edge. I would like to have a guitar track where I can hear that the guitarist really wants to kill the guitar. Overall I think it´s got potential and I like the sound of the singer, although he could freak out a little more.

15th July 2005, 08:28 AM	#5
DjRio Gear Head Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 63	Thanks for all the responses!! I took all your suggestions into consideration and let the band know... they love constructive criticism because they're always trying to improve. I think they're on to something though cause the song was stuck in my head all day... could be because i sat there recording it for hours though.. :) And no they don't have a website up yet.. its coming though. I'll post more of the tracks when they're completed. Any other suggestions from those who haven't taken a listen yet? Thanks!

18th July 2005, 05:01 AM	#6
JackInslee Gear Head Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 46	if you did drums, amazing... i feel like they are sequenced though. i like this, except the vocals seem way too dry and muddy

19th July 2005, 06:51 PM	#8
DjRio Gear Head Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 63	Thanks for the posts! I've seen a couple now saying the vocals are too clean. What are some good techniques to add "color" to vocals and dirty them up? Thanks!

19th July 2005, 08:43 PM	#9
wilkinswp Gear addict Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 365	Not to flame, but I agree with the others, this tune is dying to break out into some kind of rocking chorus. . . It needs it as it would add immensely to the tune.

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