critique my drums

[theblackpage]

tell me if im on the right track here. im using waves transx on the kick and comp on the rest... well ANY mixing tips or anything would be useful

[Todd]

Too much room ambience.

I dont think that will work to well in a mix.

Which brings me to that point, which is a pretty big one.

It really doesnt matter what the drums sound like in Solo.

Many mixing engineers never solo anything, and the ones that do,
dont do it very much or for very long. Mostly only to check for
offending frequencies masked by other instruments, or to check for
phase correlation.
So i think you need to really track some guitars and bass, and go
from there.
Its ALL about how they all sit together. Many great mixes out there
in which, if you Solo'd the drums, they'd sound like crap by themselves.
Yet when in the context of the mix, they sound incredible.

When im mixing and eq'ing, everything is counter dependant on everything
else. I eq the bass depending on the kick drum, and vice versa, and
so on. Everything has to find its own place, yet mesh together.

TK

[theblackpage]

i never solo them usually, i was just making sure that i was heading in the right track

[firby]

Ya know, I kind of like how they sound. I am with the other poster however. The snare especially will probably never cut it in the mix. I can tell by the way the drummer is playing a little or a lot how the song is going to sound. I don't think it is gonna make it through the wall of traks that will follow.

No worries though, you got a good sound, just maybe not the right sound for the trak.

If you want to salvage it you need to sharpen up the snare do something with the kick and turn down the room for the moment. I am just guessing here because I hear a wall of guitar headed your way. If those traks are accompianment for an upright bass and a stellar, cool pianist then disregard my comments.

[theblackpage]

yeah your right, they are coming as soon as i do my gear upgrade. its gonna be a pop punkish song. thanks for the tips! ill post an updated clip. i can mix the drums in jsut fine. im just asking for any noticible things that could help before i get goin.

[theblackpage]

too much compression?

[nickynicknick]

Originally Posted by Todd

Many great mixes out there
in which, if you Solo'd the drums, they'd sound like crap by themselves.
Yet when in the context of the mix, they sound incredible

TK

I think this is wishful thinking in a way....to me anyway, a great mix will have great sounding drums on their own as well...however I am in agreement that those great sounding drums have to work in context of what else is going on.....I also agree that it sounds too ambient...but I'm thinking from the perspective of pop songs I'm referencing in my head...although, in my experience, there is too much hats and cymbals in relationship to tubs and snare....I'd say it could stand to sound a little more present.

Nick

[theblackpage]

are you referring to my update that i posted?