my first in the box mix (rock)

[everybody's x]

Had to sell my Topaz
this is my first true itb mix, how's it sound to you guys (so far)?

[powercord]

sounds good. the kick drum needs eqing and maybe it should have been tuned different.

[everybody's x]

yikes 30 something downloadsd and one comment! must suck ass!

Anyway thanks for the comment man, I was thinking the kick was poking out a little too much. Its a d112 with no eq whatsoever, I prolly should scoop it a little between 150-500? Is that what you're hearing?
Thanks
Dave

[Hiwatt]

I thought it was pretty good. I liked the guitars, how did you get that sound?

[everybody's x]

Thanks for the comments guys!
guitar is a Ibanez RG550 with an old seymour DUNCAN parallel axis trembucker ( I love these pickups)
Marshall 2550 head through a jcm800 4x12 caB WITH CELESTIONS

presence 6
bass 3.5
mid.3.5
treble 6
master 6
lead 6
gain 6


double tracked on each side
57 on the grill pointed right at the outside edge of the dustcap.

into a motu 2408 mk3

I think that about covers the guitars

[Hiwatt]

Thanks for guitar info, good tune by the way. So what are you using for software?

[everybody's x]

I originally tracked this in Vegas 1
mixed it with Sonar 3

[everybody's x]

tweaked a few things, is this better? I hope

[masterhiggins]

I LOVE the drum sound on the retouch. Much tighter kick and nice open overheads. You might want to try warming up the overall mix a little bit, maybe with, let's say, a PSP Vintage Warmer. Other than that, it sounds really good. Congrats.

BTW, The guitar sounds great. Is the bass also an ibanez?

[everybody's x]

P-Bass
emg's
Ampeg V2
Ampeg 8x10 cab
tech21 compactor
at-4033
DI
Speaker mic

sounds fantastic solo'd

[masterhiggins]

Cool. Could you give me some specs on the p-bass and emg's? like what year is the p-bass? american? mexican? vintage re-issue? and are the EMG's active or passive? and which models are they? and are they just P-styles or mixed P/Js? Thanks :)

[everybody's x]

It is actually a mighty mite custom built P-Bass
Mighty Mite is the company who makes "official" fender replacement bodies and necks.
check out ebay, or mightymite.com you can build a damn nice p-bass for dirt cheap. I spent maybe $300.

I is really good looking too I might add, blueburst

It has active EMG's
the split-coils, it doesn't have the lower bridge pickup, I dont remember the model number, sorry

I am considering building a strat too for some single coil sounds

[everybody's x]

I think I might automate some pushes on the drums when the guitars thicken up especially the snare, I am yellow lining t rightnow and it still isnt hot enough in those parts, I'll probably double the track and bring it up then.

here's the bass

[masterhiggins]

sweet. I checked out the site. looks like a down to earth company. how would you say the construction quality of the parts compares to, let's say, squire? I noticed the feel of fender is slightly different than that of squire.

[everybody's x]

well the way I understand it, If you order a "fender" replacement part you are getting their product. I assume they are identical or at least close enough for fender to license them as such.
The quality is top-notch

As far as playability versus a squier or an american/japanese/mexican, I really couldn't tell you, I don't play it I just record it

I'd have to ask my bass player. I just know it's a damn fine looking/sounding bass that was embarrassingly cheap to build.

[wwest]

Originally posted by everybody's x
I think I might automate some pushes on the drums when the guitars thicken up especially the snare, I am yellow lining t rightnow and it still isnt hot enough in those parts, I'll probably double the track and bring it up then.

Not knowing exactly what your dealing with, I would still have to ask if that approach is correct. If you're yellow-lining and still don't have enough headroom to make the snare crack, maybe you need to re-align your mix and bring EVERYTHING else back a few db? Copying or doubling tracks wouldn't necessarly help your "level" problem. Then again, I'm not there. I'm merely making observations for afar.

[everybody's x]

or you could just bring yer ass over here and do it

see thats whats nice about having a mixer, bringing everything down is easy, damnit.

since you have the luxury of recording to 2" I'll explain; in a daw, you can double the original track (not like double-tracking) but an actual copy of the same track, and run one dry underneath everything and make it cut more.


or I could ftp the fileto you and you could run it through your 1176 and send it back to me

I like that idea

[wwest]

Originally posted by everybody's x
...since you have the luxury of recording to 2" I'll explain; in a daw, you can double the original track (not like double-tracking) but an actual copy of the same track, and run one dry underneath everything and make it cut more.....

You can do that off of a two inch to a desk also. It's called parallel tape return. You "Y" the line return from the tape machine to two channels on the mixer. Then you can take it over the top and insert a really nasty comp. on one of them. Whallah!!

Still doesn't solve your problem with lack of headroom.........

[csiaudio]

Are you mixing with any type of sub? The guitars sound solid - but the low end (kick/bass) sound kind of...disconnected from the guitars. Guitars are kind of in your face and the drums and bass sound no so in your face. Would love to hear a rounder. punchier bass and kick to put this totally in my face.

Metal is not my forte' but I know that most squish the snot out of everything to give that in your face punch...redundante from what I said earlier but I think you get the idea.

How many 'mult' guitar tracks did you do to get the guitar sound?

Nice job!

[everybody's x]

Im still tweaking this one, the bass track is really what's buggin me overall I need alot more lower mids in it and less mud.

the guitars are straight into the motu 2408 pres, no onboard eq and no computer manipulation at all.
the second version has

2 tracks 57/marshall/celestion4x12
1 track 57/boogie 50 caliber/celestion4x12
on each side.

thanks for the comments