A song called "honey" with a royer sf12 for vox

dawkab · 24th December 2004, 08:54 AM

This is a guide vocal done with one side of a royer sf12 and a hayfever stricken singer.

A rough mix, DIY "el slamo".

The strings are VSL.

Interested in arrangement ideas, vocal parts, mix impressions, anything really.

http://www.lucklion.com/demos/honeymultx.mp3

Its on the large side, hi quality mp3.

Thanks all.

butterfly · 24th December 2004, 06:30 PM

I think the chorus is quite catchy and you have some really nice sounds, but think the singer sounds very bland in her delivery during verse, when there is not much going on around her, partly due to the cheery"pop-iness" of her delivery and partly due to the lyrics. If you could find a way of imparting more drama or mystery or sensuality or just something to her voice or delivery then you might be onto something.

dawkab · 25th December 2004, 02:18 AM

hmm, yes the singer can't stand the guide verses, I think for the exact reasons you mention. Different delivery, more support under the vox in the verse perhaps? thanks.

dreamaudio · 25th December 2004, 09:32 AM

hey dawkab..i think it's nice work..and nice arrangement with the synth sounds..couple things..

Seems like the synth is a little overpower during the chorus..and the vocals get lost a little..although that could be a good thing...vocals lose their resonation when chorus comes in(tambre)..

I like the arrangement, but some of those stops between the ch, and vs, are a little disney channel'ish IMO...and also during the breakdown...again, IMO. Some aritists like that corny sound effect stuff..I personally dont :)

I dig the outro...reminds me of Orbital...

How old is this chick?

Brian.

Alexi · 25th December 2004, 03:14 PM

hi there,
great song so far, really like the singer, i would concentrate on the drums, the bass drum seems to lack a bit of body, too clicky

cheers

alex

dawkab · 26th December 2004, 03:19 AM

thanks all,

lot of work still to go, I don't think "disney channel" is what we are aiming for , but depressed, morbid shoegazin it aint (not that there is anything wrong with that!
Any ideas on vocal parts? do the first/second ch need harmonies? The singer goes into head voice for the first line, which means it gets lost in the strings a little I think.

Again, thanks for the feedback.

powercord · 26th December 2004, 03:40 AM

i think your track is unimaginative and cheesey

dawkab · 26th December 2004, 07:26 AM

Ha! Thanks mate!

dreamaudio · 26th December 2004, 10:22 AM

Hope he isn't serious. (powercord)

powercord · 26th December 2004, 08:21 PM

no i am.

dreamaudio · 27th December 2004, 02:38 AM

it's because you have too simplistic of a mind..hence the name...powercord.

powercord · 27th December 2004, 02:43 AM

ahahahahahahahahah, that was great! DREAM AUDIO,.... OOO ITS A DREAM THE AUDIO...ITS SO ELUSIVE...LIKE FLOATING IN SPACE...BLAH BLAH BLAH...IF THATS THE KINDA MUSIC YOU LIKE TO LISTEN TO THEN PICK UP THE NEW HILLARY DUFF..ITS PERFECT FOR YOU.

dawkab · 27th December 2004, 04:30 AM

I make lots of differents kinds of music.

For this projects purpose, I would be doing something very wrong if someone with powerchords musical tastes and values liked it AT ALL.

Powerchord thinks this song is "unimaginative and cheesy"

After listening to some of his tracks I can understand why.

http://gearslutz.com/board/showthrea...426#post246426

He seems to values musical ideas that the target audience for my track would find "indulgent and pointless".

I can see both sides of the argument, and for its worth, in my experience, making truly joyful music is much harder than making intense, focused and agressive music.

So piss away mate!

powercord · 27th December 2004, 04:48 AM

god damn you must hate the blues, rock and roll, jazz, classical and hiphop... I see the only music you can apprechiate would be "joyful" music...like....HILLARY DUFF, JESSE MCARTHY, PAUL VAN DYKE, AVIRAL LAVINE, AND OTHER FAKE CRAP...BECAUSE THATS THE ONLY MUSIC I CAN SEE AS "TRUELY JOYFUL"....I CANT THINK OF ONE GREAT ARTIST THAT ISNT "intense, focused and agressive" EXCEPT FOR THE ONES LISTED ABOVE...HA...AND IF YOU WANNA BE THE NEXT PRODUCER FOR JESSE MCARTHY...THEN WORD UP...YOUR ON YOUR WAY.

powercord · 27th December 2004, 04:53 AM

and one more thing... who exactly is your target audience?

dreamaudio · 27th December 2004, 09:06 AM

wow powercord...You missed the analogy behind my whole post...You are truly...a ****ing retard. So props to you big man...But I'm sure you already know you're a big man...You have the most innovative shit i've ever heard. WOW simply amazing. Don't quit your day job.

Sorry you have to take this abuse from a newbie dawkab...Just kick him aside...and shut his 16 year old mouth.

dawkab · 27th December 2004, 10:49 AM

This is getting kinda unpractical and unrelated to this forum, so one last go round the ring for me before I start drinking some fine ales..

Thanks for the support and critique dreamaudio. Much appreciated.

Powerchord. My explanation was a little simplistic, my apologies.

I mean songs that express a joy at being alive, or a "lust for life"

This doesn't mean the song or artist isn't "intense, focused or agressive".

However the pursuit of those characteristics as an end in themselves is much easier than using them as a means to an end. I choose the latter over the former.

Some examples of musical "Joy"

One pop artist and song for you...

Stevie Wonder-higher ground.

One Classical artist and work....

Handel's - Messiah

The track I posted here doesn't come close to the above level of genius, and nor is it supposed to, but the intent and core is there. You are just currently incapable of perceiving it.

Happy Holidays mate, and when I'm next in NYC maybe we can meet up and I'll drink you under the table.

powercord · 27th December 2004, 04:26 PM

oh cool i understand, check out these guys...they are great...really well produced...awesome mic placement...and their songs make me very happy.
http://disney.go.com/music/videos/su...ral/index.html
that song makes me FEEL SO GOOD ITS SO HAPPY!!!!!!
and to you dreamer...yes my screen name is a pun...ah...ha...ha...ha....thats why I have it.....ha...ha...ha...ha.
I think Handel would roll in his christian ass grave...and thats not classical...thats old gosspal...totally different...he didnt write a word of that song its all the good book...lol.... and stevie wonder's higher ground song is also about seeing jesus...and IMO...is one of his most porely writen songs...yes he has ahppy and good songs...thats because the music is imaginitive...unlike modern day popshit thats all made in a box. If you want, come to nyc sometime and i'll take you to see a real music show...because yall folks in shittyville NC, or wherever you live, are ovbiously too absorbed by whats on the disney channel radio station, peace out

dreamaudio · 27th December 2004, 08:25 PM

simply. fascinating.

slobbermonster · 28th December 2004, 01:05 AM

I guess powercord is just jealous since his tunes are all mostly crap and poorly mixed and produced. He's probably just venting his frustration.

powercord · 28th December 2004, 01:08 AM

yea, your right, i really wish i could make music for aron carter...hes my idle you know..

slobbermonster · 28th December 2004, 01:38 AM

actually I was thinking you wish you could make music, period.
If your gonna chuck stones at other peoples work you really should get your own skill level higher cuz right now your not an example of much good.

powercord · 28th December 2004, 02:16 AM

lol, ok, send me your tracks.

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dawkab Gear interested Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14	A song called "honey" with a royer sf12 for vox This is a guide vocal done with one side of a royer sf12 and a hayfever stricken singer. A rough mix, DIY "el slamo". The strings are VSL. Interested in arrangement ideas, vocal parts, mix impressions, anything really. http://www.lucklion.com/demos/honeymultx.mp3 Its on the large side, hi quality mp3. Thanks all.

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24th December 2004, 06:30 PM	#2
butterfly Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: uk Posts: 445	I think the chorus is quite catchy and you have some really nice sounds, but think the singer sounds very bland in her delivery during verse, when there is not much going on around her, partly due to the cheery"pop-iness" of her delivery and partly due to the lyrics. If you could find a way of imparting more drama or mystery or sensuality or just something to her voice or delivery then you might be onto something.

25th December 2004, 02:18 AM	#3
dawkab Gear interested Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14	hmm, yes the singer can't stand the guide verses, I think for the exact reasons you mention. Different delivery, more support under the vox in the verse perhaps? thanks.

25th December 2004, 09:32 AM	#4
dreamaudio Gear nut Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 121	hey dawkab..i think it's nice work..and nice arrangement with the synth sounds..couple things.. Seems like the synth is a little overpower during the chorus..and the vocals get lost a little..although that could be a good thing...vocals lose their resonation when chorus comes in(tambre).. I like the arrangement, but some of those stops between the ch, and vs, are a little disney channel'ish IMO...and also during the breakdown...again, IMO. Some aritists like that corny sound effect stuff..I personally dont :) I dig the outro...reminds me of Orbital... How old is this chick? Brian.

25th December 2004, 03:14 PM	#5
Alexi Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hamburg Posts: 1,063	hi there, great song so far, really like the singer, i would concentrate on the drums, the bass drum seems to lack a bit of body, too clicky cheers alex

26th December 2004, 03:19 AM	#6
dawkab Gear interested Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14	thanks all, lot of work still to go, I don't think "disney channel" is what we are aiming for , but depressed, morbid shoegazin it aint (not that there is anything wrong with that! Any ideas on vocal parts? do the first/second ch need harmonies? The singer goes into head voice for the first line, which means it gets lost in the strings a little I think. Again, thanks for the feedback.

26th December 2004, 03:40 AM	#7
powercord Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 150	i think your track is unimaginative and cheesey

26th December 2004, 07:26 AM	#8
dawkab Gear interested Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14	Ha! Thanks mate!

26th December 2004, 10:22 AM	#9
dreamaudio Gear nut Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 121	Hope he isn't serious. (powercord)

26th December 2004, 08:21 PM	#10
powercord Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 150	no i am.

27th December 2004, 02:38 AM	#11
dreamaudio Gear nut Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 121	it's because you have too simplistic of a mind..hence the name...powercord.

27th December 2004, 02:43 AM	#12
powercord Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 150	ahahahahahahahahah, that was great! DREAM AUDIO,.... OOO ITS A DREAM THE AUDIO...ITS SO ELUSIVE...LIKE FLOATING IN SPACE...BLAH BLAH BLAH...IF THATS THE KINDA MUSIC YOU LIKE TO LISTEN TO THEN PICK UP THE NEW HILLARY DUFF..ITS PERFECT FOR YOU.

27th December 2004, 04:30 AM	#13
dawkab Gear interested Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14	I make lots of differents kinds of music. For this projects purpose, I would be doing something very wrong if someone with powerchords musical tastes and values liked it AT ALL. Powerchord thinks this song is "unimaginative and cheesy" After listening to some of his tracks I can understand why. http://gearslutz.com/board/showthrea...426#post246426 He seems to values musical ideas that the target audience for my track would find "indulgent and pointless". I can see both sides of the argument, and for its worth, in my experience, making truly joyful music is much harder than making intense, focused and agressive music. So piss away mate!

27th December 2004, 04:48 AM	#14
powercord Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 150	god damn you must hate the blues, rock and roll, jazz, classical and hiphop... I see the only music you can apprechiate would be "joyful" music...like....HILLARY DUFF, JESSE MCARTHY, PAUL VAN DYKE, AVIRAL LAVINE, AND OTHER FAKE CRAP...BECAUSE THATS THE ONLY MUSIC I CAN SEE AS "TRUELY JOYFUL"....I CANT THINK OF ONE GREAT ARTIST THAT ISNT "intense, focused and agressive" EXCEPT FOR THE ONES LISTED ABOVE...HA...AND IF YOU WANNA BE THE NEXT PRODUCER FOR JESSE MCARTHY...THEN WORD UP...YOUR ON YOUR WAY.

27th December 2004, 04:53 AM	#15
powercord Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 150	and one more thing... who exactly is your target audience?

27th December 2004, 09:06 AM	#16
dreamaudio Gear nut Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 121	wow powercord...You missed the analogy behind my whole post...You are truly...a ****ing retard. So props to you big man...But I'm sure you already know you're a big man...You have the most innovative shit i've ever heard. WOW simply amazing. Don't quit your day job. Sorry you have to take this abuse from a newbie dawkab...Just kick him aside...and shut his 16 year old mouth.

27th December 2004, 10:49 AM	#17
dawkab Gear interested Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 14	This is getting kinda unpractical and unrelated to this forum, so one last go round the ring for me before I start drinking some fine ales.. Thanks for the support and critique dreamaudio. Much appreciated. Powerchord. My explanation was a little simplistic, my apologies. I mean songs that express a joy at being alive, or a "lust for life" This doesn't mean the song or artist isn't "intense, focused or agressive". However the pursuit of those characteristics as an end in themselves is much easier than using them as a means to an end. I choose the latter over the former. Some examples of musical "Joy" One pop artist and song for you... Stevie Wonder-higher ground. One Classical artist and work.... Handel's - Messiah The track I posted here doesn't come close to the above level of genius, and nor is it supposed to, but the intent and core is there. You are just currently incapable of perceiving it. Happy Holidays mate, and when I'm next in NYC maybe we can meet up and I'll drink you under the table.

27th December 2004, 04:26 PM	#18
powercord Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 150	oh cool i understand, check out these guys...they are great...really well produced...awesome mic placement...and their songs make me very happy. http://disney.go.com/music/videos/su...ral/index.html that song makes me FEEL SO GOOD ITS SO HAPPY!!!!!! and to you dreamer...yes my screen name is a pun...ah...ha...ha...ha....thats why I have it.....ha...ha...ha...ha. I think Handel would roll in his christian ass grave...and thats not classical...thats old gosspal...totally different...he didnt write a word of that song its all the good book...lol.... and stevie wonder's higher ground song is also about seeing jesus...and IMO...is one of his most porely writen songs...yes he has ahppy and good songs...thats because the music is imaginitive...unlike modern day popshit thats all made in a box. If you want, come to nyc sometime and i'll take you to see a real music show...because yall folks in shittyville NC, or wherever you live, are ovbiously too absorbed by whats on the disney channel radio station, peace out

27th December 2004, 08:25 PM	#19
dreamaudio Gear nut Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 121	simply. fascinating.

28th December 2004, 01:05 AM	#20
slobbermonster Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 163	I guess powercord is just jealous since his tunes are all mostly crap and poorly mixed and produced. He's probably just venting his frustration.

28th December 2004, 01:08 AM	#21
powercord Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 150	yea, your right, i really wish i could make music for aron carter...hes my idle you know..

28th December 2004, 01:38 AM	#22
slobbermonster Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 163	actually I was thinking you wish you could make music, period. If your gonna chuck stones at other peoples work you really should get your own skill level higher cuz right now your not an example of much good.

28th December 2004, 02:16 AM	#23
powercord Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 150	lol, ok, send me your tracks.