Recorded, Produced, Mixed, Mastered=lil' old me

sinsay · 5th November 2004, 03:55 PM

I've been lurkin' here for a mighty long time, but now I feel like '**** it' might as well join in. This is off of an LP that we (Me-Producer/E.S.G.-Artist) just released, independently. I'm really curious about what some of the more "ENLIGHTENED" folks, that I really admire, here think about different aspects of recording, mix, etc..

Thanx in advance
SIN

(E.S.G. "All American Gangsta", SES)

sinsay · 9th November 2004, 01:24 AM

Thanx Dim.
Any comments on the guitar or bass tones? I'm especially concerned about the solo @ the end. Too much overall compression? Just having fun second guessing myself.

SIN

syra · 9th November 2004, 09:01 AM

Great production and I really dig the sound...was it mixed with a board or ITB?

lasso · 9th November 2004, 01:00 PM

Me's diggin man

I feel however, that you could take a little bit more advantage of the stereo field and that the vox could be a tad louder?

Cool dude.

NeoVXR · 9th November 2004, 03:27 PM

beautiful, but somewhat egotistic guitar playing..
good sound!

axeman69 · 9th November 2004, 08:24 PM

I'm not much into hip-hop. The production is super. I think the guitar solo at the end sits fine in the mix and IMVHO is not overcompressed.

It's just that it started at about 4:06. At 4:30, I was tired of it. and it went almost another minute. Ready to turn the song off but was curious just how long it went.

sinsay · 9th November 2004, 09:51 PM

Man I really appreciate all the input! Thanx, and it was all ITB (Mix5 w/888-24,thinking about an Rosetta 800 though), except for some outboard compression on the mix buss (bus).

SIN

sinsay · 12th November 2004, 10:12 PM

We're @ #73 on Billboard's R&B/Hip Hop chart. I'm feelin' good. I kinda feel like maybe I could contribute around here, you know, participate instead of just lurking.
I really appreciate all the great info you guys share. I know it's mostly about rock and such but I think most of it is applicable to any genre.

Peace is Peace

&
Love is Love,

SIN

NeoVXR · 12th November 2004, 11:24 PM

congrats! your chart listing is well deserved.

ttauri · 13th November 2004, 12:07 AM

Tite. Quite a lineup there. ESG, Bun B (I think?), Slim Thug...

Sounds good to me (better than I remember previous ESG stuff sounding too...).

Now, how's it sound screwed & chopped?

Peece,
T. Tauri

syra · 13th November 2004, 12:22 AM

Congrats sinsay...

do you wanna maybe elaborate on the instruments used?...

sinsay · 13th November 2004, 02:40 AM

ttauri-Yep, Bun B of UGK on 1st verse, ESG on 2nd, & Slim on 3rd. What do you know about screwed & chopped in Jersey?

You should check the ESG & Slim cd "Boss Hogg Outlaws".

syra-5 string, strat, a buncha modules(give or take a couple), and an MPC 3k.

everybody-thanx

SIN

I'll probably be a pain in the ass now. You dudes are cool in my book.

kraftrourke · 13th November 2004, 05:58 PM

what mics and pres on vocals? sounds good...

cdog · 14th November 2004, 08:12 PM

Smoooooth. Great vocal sounds.....

Love the guitar solo at the end.

sinsay · 15th November 2004, 03:30 PM

Every one was on a 103 but I mix up the pre's. I think a couple of them thru a 2022 and one of them and the singer an MP2NV, and all of them through a CL-2A.
I think the bass was thru a bass balls>q-tron>U5 (I think).
All the synths & MPC stuff were tracked thru either U5's or the DI's on a pre (love the GR DI on sample kicks).
As far as the vocals are concerned, I always seem to have trouble with the vocal levels , especially on tracks that I produce

. I think I like to hear myself.
I'll be better next time I promise!

SIN

ttauri · 15th November 2004, 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sinsay
What do you know about screwed & chopped in Jersey? You should check the ESG & Slim cd "Boss Hogg Outlaws".

A friend introduced me to Screw a few years back with a copy of his "June 27th" tape, and it was one of those "oh sh*t!!!!" moments.

Add in hearing Devin's first solo (quickly became one of my all-time favorites) and Mista Madd's "Down South" with Slim & Yungstar around the same time, and it led to me paying a lot more attention to Houston rap than the average East-Coaster.

Yeah, I never got that Boss Hogg LP. Gotta add it to the list.

Peece,
T. Tauri

butterfly · 19th November 2004, 02:35 PM

Oh I'm vibeing to this, great. Love the production on the vocal hook. Wish I could get this kind of sound myself. All the little synth sounds are cool as well. My only criticism is that the guitar solo is a little long winded. I think it might be more effective if it peaked a bit quicker and you were fading out by about by about 4.48 also a grittier sound might be more effective. But all in all very nice work.

sinsay · 19th November 2004, 04:26 PM

yeah, everyone seems to be in agreement about the long solo at the end. i was going for an old 70's elongated funk kinda thing, oh well. i'll consider that next time.
what specifically do you mean by grittier?
thanx everyone for the critisisms, i think this sort of conversation makes us all better (me at least).

SIN

butterfly · 19th November 2004, 07:29 PM

Sin. By gritter I suppose I meant an edgier dirtier sound which might create a bit more tension.

hrn · 19th November 2004, 11:33 PM

I think the vocals could have been a bit higher (1dB maybe). The guitar solo is to long..nothing really happens in the playing.

Otherwise it's awesome.

(me dancing)

Hans

Charlie-O · 20th November 2004, 12:21 AM

Very nice, I realy liked the transitions going into and coming out of hooks.

The mix was great on my standards, (vocals a shy low) ITB!!!! very inspirational, I need to step it up!

How did you route the bus compression?

Out the 888/24 into pre or comp or... back in?

hrn · 20th November 2004, 01:19 AM

Here's an edit just for fun trying to get the vocals up and to warmify it a bit.

xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Hans

sinsay · 22nd November 2004, 01:11 AM

just as an insert on the stereo master (888/24>cl2a>888/24)

SIN

Phunkeman · 24th November 2004, 01:50 AM

Wassup Sin. Long time no see.

sinsay · 29th November 2004, 03:38 PM

SIN

Phunkeman · 29th November 2004, 04:12 PM

Holla for the Holidays

Prince Alsihad · 2nd December 2004, 08:20 AM

Great job Sinsay. Totally diggin' it!

Pizon · 3rd December 2004, 10:49 PM

great job sin, im a downsouth producer/eng. that mix is clean and nice,keep doin ya thang homie!!

sinsay · 4th December 2004, 09:39 PM

To the Prince & Pizon.....
I appreciate the love.

Any suggestions for the future (production, mix, or mastering wise) will also be appreciated.

SIN

NeoVXR · 5th December 2004, 10:06 PM

yo, MORE, please !

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5th November 2004, 03:55 PM	#1
sinsay Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: space city Posts: 170	Recorded, Produced, Mixed, Mastered=lil' old me I've been lurkin' here for a mighty long time, but now I feel like '**** it' might as well join in. This is off of an LP that we (Me-Producer/E.S.G.-Artist) just released, independently. I'm really curious about what some of the more "ENLIGHTENED" folks, that I really admire, here think about different aspects of recording, mix, etc.. Thanx in advance SIN (E.S.G. "All American Gangsta", SES) __________________ SIN Do as SINSAY not as SIN do!

9th November 2004, 01:24 AM	#2
sinsay Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: space city Posts: 170	Thanx Dim. Any comments on the guitar or bass tones? I'm especially concerned about the solo @ the end. Too much overall compression? Just having fun second guessing myself. SIN __________________ SIN Do as SINSAY not as SIN do!

9th November 2004, 01:00 PM	#4
lasso Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 331	Me's diggin man I feel however, that you could take a little bit more advantage of the stereo field and that the vox could be a tad louder? Cool dude. __________________ Cheers, Lasso. www.tonekontrol.dk www.myspace.com/supershadecph www.hotmastering.dk

9th November 2004, 03:27 PM	#5
NeoVXR Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,167	beautiful, but somewhat egotistic guitar playing.. good sound! __________________ sorry 4 poor english

9th November 2004, 09:01 AM	#3
syra Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: L.A. Posts: 1,411	Great production and I really dig the sound...was it mixed with a board or ITB?

9th November 2004, 08:24 PM	#6
axeman69 Gear nut Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Central Pa. Posts: 78	I'm not much into hip-hop. The production is super. I think the guitar solo at the end sits fine in the mix and IMVHO is not overcompressed. It's just that it started at about 4:06. At 4:30, I was tired of it. and it went almost another minute. Ready to turn the song off but was curious just how long it went.

9th November 2004, 09:51 PM	#7
sinsay Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: space city Posts: 170	Man I really appreciate all the input! Thanx, and it was all ITB (Mix5 w/888-24,thinking about an Rosetta 800 though), except for some outboard compression on the mix buss (bus). SIN __________________ SIN Do as SINSAY not as SIN do!

12th November 2004, 10:12 PM	#8
sinsay Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: space city Posts: 170	We're @ #73 on Billboard's R&B/Hip Hop chart. I'm feelin' good. I kinda feel like maybe I could contribute around here, you know, participate instead of just lurking. I really appreciate all the great info you guys share. I know it's mostly about rock and such but I think most of it is applicable to any genre. Peace is Peace & Love is Love, SIN __________________ SIN Do as SINSAY not as SIN do!

12th November 2004, 11:24 PM	#9
NeoVXR Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,167	congrats! your chart listing is well deserved. __________________ sorry 4 poor english

13th November 2004, 12:07 AM	#10
ttauri Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Knife, Fork, Bottle, Cork Posts: 759	Tite. Quite a lineup there. ESG, Bun B (I think?), Slim Thug... Sounds good to me (better than I remember previous ESG stuff sounding too...). Now, how's it sound screwed & chopped? Peece, T. Tauri

13th November 2004, 12:22 AM	#11
syra Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: L.A. Posts: 1,411	Congrats sinsay... do you wanna maybe elaborate on the instruments used?...

13th November 2004, 02:40 AM	#12
sinsay Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: space city Posts: 170	ttauri-Yep, Bun B of UGK on 1st verse, ESG on 2nd, & Slim on 3rd. What do you know about screwed & chopped in Jersey? You should check the ESG & Slim cd "Boss Hogg Outlaws". syra-5 string, strat, a buncha modules(give or take a couple), and an MPC 3k. everybody-thanx SIN I'll probably be a pain in the ass now. You dudes are cool in my book. __________________ SIN Do as SINSAY not as SIN do!

13th November 2004, 05:58 PM	#13
kraftrourke Gear nut Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 130	what mics and pres on vocals? sounds good...

14th November 2004, 08:12 PM	#14
cdog Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 2,219	Smoooooth. Great vocal sounds..... Love the guitar solo at the end.

15th November 2004, 03:30 PM	#15
sinsay Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: space city Posts: 170	Every one was on a 103 but I mix up the pre's. I think a couple of them thru a 2022 and one of them and the singer an MP2NV, and all of them through a CL-2A. I think the bass was thru a bass balls>q-tron>U5 (I think). All the synths & MPC stuff were tracked thru either U5's or the DI's on a pre (love the GR DI on sample kicks). As far as the vocals are concerned, I always seem to have trouble with the vocal levels , especially on tracks that I produce . I think I like to hear myself. I'll be better next time I promise! SIN __________________ SIN Do as SINSAY not as SIN do!

19th November 2004, 02:35 PM	#17
butterfly Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: uk Posts: 445	Oh I'm vibeing to this, great. Love the production on the vocal hook. Wish I could get this kind of sound myself. All the little synth sounds are cool as well. My only criticism is that the guitar solo is a little long winded. I think it might be more effective if it peaked a bit quicker and you were fading out by about by about 4.48 also a grittier sound might be more effective. But all in all very nice work.

19th November 2004, 04:26 PM	#18
sinsay Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: space city Posts: 170	yeah, everyone seems to be in agreement about the long solo at the end. i was going for an old 70's elongated funk kinda thing, oh well. i'll consider that next time. what specifically do you mean by grittier? thanx everyone for the critisisms, i think this sort of conversation makes us all better (me at least). SIN __________________ SIN Do as SINSAY not as SIN do!

19th November 2004, 07:29 PM	#19
butterfly Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: uk Posts: 445	Sin. By gritter I suppose I meant an edgier dirtier sound which might create a bit more tension.

19th November 2004, 11:33 PM	#20
hrn Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Gävle, Sweden Posts: 566	I think the vocals could have been a bit higher (1dB maybe). The guitar solo is to long..nothing really happens in the playing. Otherwise it's awesome. (me dancing) Hans __________________ R1b M343 Cro-Magnon U5a Sami

20th November 2004, 12:21 AM	#21
Charlie-O Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: California Posts: 542	Very nice, I realy liked the transitions going into and coming out of hooks. The mix was great on my standards, (vocals a shy low) ITB!!!! very inspirational, I need to step it up! How did you route the bus compression? Out the 888/24 into pre or comp or... back in? __________________ It is not what you have, but what you create with it....... www.myspace.com/charlieomusic Grassroots

20th November 2004, 01:19 AM	#22
hrn Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Gävle, Sweden Posts: 566	Here's an edit just for fun trying to get the vocals up and to warmify it a bit. xxxxxxxxxxxxx Hans __________________ R1b M343 Cro-Magnon U5a Sami

22nd November 2004, 01:11 AM	#23
sinsay Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: space city Posts: 170	just as an insert on the stereo master (888/24>cl2a>888/24) SIN __________________ SIN Do as SINSAY not as SIN do!

24th November 2004, 01:50 AM	#24
Phunkeman Gear nut Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 144	Wassup Sin. Long time no see. __________________ I like it phat and round!

29th November 2004, 03:38 PM	#25
sinsay Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: space city Posts: 170	SIN __________________ SIN Do as SINSAY not as SIN do!

29th November 2004, 04:12 PM	#26
Phunkeman Gear nut Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 144	Holla for the Holidays __________________ I like it phat and round!

2nd December 2004, 08:20 AM	#27
Prince Alsihad Gear nut Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 79	GREAT SOUND! Great job Sinsay. Totally diggin' it! __________________ Johnny Suspect Studios

3rd December 2004, 10:49 PM	#28
Pizon Gear interested Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mobile,Alabama Posts: 1	fa sho cuzin im feelin ya track great job sin, im a downsouth producer/eng. that mix is clean and nice,keep doin ya thang homie!!

4th December 2004, 09:39 PM	#29
sinsay Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: space city Posts: 170	To the Prince & Pizon..... I appreciate the love. Any suggestions for the future (production, mix, or mastering wise) will also be appreciated. SIN __________________ SIN Do as SINSAY not as SIN do!

5th December 2004, 10:06 PM	#30
NeoVXR Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,167	yo, MORE, please ! __________________ sorry 4 poor english

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