I am selling another beat for 500$ and need to make sure its sounding good critque me

[feedback711]

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Due to copyright reasons I can not post the mp3. please take a second to tell me if anything needs to be changed last minute. maybe you will hear something i dont....ideas are welcome as well

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[Todd]

Why would anyone pay for this??

If you were tracking fatter sounds, through an SSL on to
2 inch, then going to digital through super high end converters or
something like that, then maybe. But this sounds like cheap sampletank
stuff.

The programming isnt dreadful, but its nothing to be proud of.
Its halfway decent. Certainly not worth a hundred bucks,
much less five hundred. Anybody could learn basic step programming
like that in a couple of days.

Man, if people are paying 500.00 for shit like this, im in the wrong end
of the music buisness. I gotta start making some crappy beats A.S.A.P.

[octatonic]

I have to agree with the guy above.
This is pretty average stuff.
If you've managed to get someone to pay for it then well done- you have sales skills that I am envious of.

The programming is a bit obvious, the mix is too wet, the sounds dated- I'm not sure this is 'current' at all.
Where is the fkin kick drum?
It sounds a bit like one of those buddha-bar backing tracks, only not as good.

Sorry to be harsh, but you asked for feedback.

[ONDRAY]

WOW, "Beats sell for 700 to 1k..." Can I get in this biz with you.. man I'm in the wrong biz. I got some loops you can use.

[drakewire]

As usual I am going to break my running tally with Todd (I love you todd who ever you really are)
I totally disagree. First and foremost we are listening through Myspace compression, but as I mentioned in the first few posts that you have done, you need to balance a bit more the bottom and top end, however, if you want to charge 500 and have a buyer, the likes of Todd and people like that are irrelevant.
500 is nothing, ask fergie how much it cost to sample two stanza's of "the girl Cant Help it" by little richard... A lot more than 500

It doesnt sound cheap... And who ever posted that, with the bottom of my heart you suck as a human being... Music is about creation and commercialism because we have to eat too... So you are in the wrong business if you would rather cut down than build up

Best Wishes,
D.Drake

[feedback711]

Originally Posted by drakewire

As usual I am going to break my running tally with Todd (I love you todd who ever you really are)
I totally disagree. First and foremost we are listening through Myspace compression, but as I mentioned in the first few posts that you have done, you need to balance a bit more the bottom and top end, however, if you want to charge 500 and have a buyer, the likes of Todd and people like that are irrelevant.
500 is nothing, ask fergie how much it cost to sample two stanza's of "the girl Cant Help it" by little richard... A lot more than 500

It doesnt sound cheap... And who ever posted that, with the bottom of my heart you suck as a human being... Music is about creation and commercialism because we have to eat too... So you are in the wrong business if you would rather cut down than build up

Best Wishes,
D.Drake

You are right.
And if these dudes knew much of mixing, and music for that matter they would understand what cheap mp3 quality does on top of myspace shredding your file.
I post a crappy mp3 to avaoid stupid people like your self from stealing it to make money off my shit.
You are in the wrong buisness though. This is not the first beat i have sold for that price and i usually average about 700.
Dont hate. Its not my fault no one wants to pay you for your work.


Its cool though. I monitored the beat downtown at a larger studio and made a coupla adjustments and the beat is prestine. Thanks for the hate you first coupla post and to the last dude....I appreciate your common sense . Hopefully it will spred. take care

[jahala]

Like the others have said - sounds a bit dated and a bit too wet for the current market, but if you're able to make money from these then congratz to you!.. Just pray that the eagles' lawyers dont visit you anytime soon and take away your cash... ;)

- J.

[mix-it-well]

Originally Posted by Todd

Why would anyone pay for this??

If you were tracking fatter sounds, through an SSL on to
2 inch, then going to digital through super high end converters or
something like that, then maybe. But this sounds like cheap sampletank
stuff.

lol ,yea sure...what a dumb statement.

Originally Posted by ONDRAY

WOW, "Beats sell for 700 to 1k..." Can I get in this biz with you.. man I'm in the wrong biz. I got some loops you can use.

You mad.

Stop hatin' and if it's that easy for you,make your money with it.
Shouldn`'t be a problem for you right?

...Since you surely have a SSL Console and a Neve Preamp ,which makes you to a superproducer lol.

[feedback711]

Since MIX-IT-WELL is obviously the best beat maker in this thread, i will consider myself blessed to have him back me.

To any one else who thinks the quality of the mp3 is the same quality i sold the track as, then you are dumb. My original question was in reguards to the sounds used. some say dated, thats a compliment seeing as how music from the past is real dynamic music. and modern radio music sucks for dynamics

I cant risk some stupid little kid stealing a mastered version of the track and selling it.
Who would by a beat with crappy mp3 quality.

I just wanted to know if the tone was consistant. If i even needed a bass line. if a instrument stuck out more than it was suppose to...you know. logical questions that can be over looked when you take hours constructing a beat

And to the I HAVE LOOPS YOU CAN USE comment. YEAH i sample. so does 99.9% of hip hop. You want to say that you should leave rhianna a email for using a stock sony drum loop for her PLATINUM SELLING SONG umber-ella.

But who knows. to those who just voiced there opinion about the mix.....respect......


mix it well-----your dope

[feedback711]

The sample is a Yanni sample ....And to any one that knows of yanni knows he playes piano and does very atmospheric stuff for enya.

i cant undo reverb on a sample. unless some one knows how and would share the technique of drying up a mastered sample. Unfortunate for me the heart felt sample i cut from yanni was recorded along time ago and is very wet and dynamic.


sorry if my beat has offended you brickwall limiter ears.

[dcwave]

Originally Posted by feedback711

The sample is a Yanni sample ....And to any one that knows of yanni knows he playes piano and does very atmospheric stuff for enya.

Enya plays her own synths.

[Ol' Betsey]

Sorry guys, I'm no beat maker and actually haven't even listened to the track but the title struck me as interesting...

So... Sorry to go off-topic but I'm genuinely interested: You say that it's a Yanni (Enya) sample? So who pays for that? Do you get your $500 and then the artists/management/label have to get the clearances? How does that work?

Anyway good luck and take care! It's tough making ANY money in the music business these days so feel good!

R.

[feedback711]

Originally Posted by Ol' Betsey

Sorry guys, I'm no beat maker and actually haven't even listened to the track but the title struck me as interesting...

So... Sorry to go off-topic but I'm genuinely interested: You say that it's a Yanni (Enya) sample? So who pays for that? Do you get your $500 and then the artists/management/label have to get the clearances? How does that work?

Anyway good luck and take care! It's tough making ANY money in the music business these days so feel good!

R.

i just get money untill some one takes it.

snitch if you want. I will work something out with his lable confronted.me.........i play middle man.. Your suppose to get clearence but ohh well. alot of the pros wont chase you down or go to court over 500$ and if they do. **** it.... pay em off and keep moven.

The dude i sold the beat to has no chance of really getting heard out side of his community and just has money. The chance of any one finding me in real life is crazy hard. My myspace is under a different name. and the kid dont even know my real name. so i doubt any one will find me. or put in the effort.

I have the copyright process started. eventually i will be told i cant copyright it. and by that time its long and over.

Get money.

[feedback711]

Originally Posted by dcwave

Enya plays her own synths.

yes she does..


but what about the countless number of colabs that openly give credit to Yanni for his work on the piano

Plus yanni has this whole studio stage in his music where he broke from the piano and had a entire orchestra playing dreamy tunes.


You can find tracks with him and enya on them at your local wal-mart in the relaxation candle isle with the relaxing music that you push the button to hear.

[ONDRAY]

Originally Posted by feedback711

i just get money untill some one takes it.

snitch if you want. I will work something out with his lable confronted.me.........i play middle man.. Your suppose to get clearence but ohh well. alot of the pros wont chase you down or go to court over 500$ and if they do. **** it.... pay em off and keep moven.

The dude i sold the beat to has no chance of really getting heard out side of his community and just has money. The chance of any one finding me in real life is crazy hard. My myspace is under a different name. and the kid dont even know my real name. so i doubt any one will find me. or put in the effort.

I have the copyright process started. eventually i will be told i cant copyright it. and by that time its long and over.

Get money.

Dude, no ones hatin' it's just that if you snatched a loop that you can't even fix the mix reverb on, throw a beat in the back that doesn't even have a proper kik, call your own and sell it for $500-$1K. It just doesn't make sense. I'm glad you make coin on doing what you do, hell I wish I made that coin and yes that's cheap for pop programmers, I know some hip hop guys back in the day who paid way way more.

however, that's not what Todd and some others are trying to make a point of. Your track is a loop, where's the arrangement. The melody was ripped off from Yanni (which he's actually more of a pan flute player than a pianist btw) and you're making coin for what exactly. like it's said before, your marketing and sales skills are supreme.

btw, I wasn't kidding about the get me in the biz, hell I'll send you some loops if you pay me 25%, say $200, but they'll be original, so that's a bonus.

[Ol' Betsey]

Originally Posted by feedback711

i just get money untill some one takes it.

Ah OK, gotcha ya...

R.

[feedback711]

Originally Posted by ONDRAY

Dude, no ones hatin' it's just that if you snatched a loop that you can't even fix the mix reverb on, throw a beat in the back that doesn't even have a proper kik, call your own and sell it for $500-$1K. It just doesn't make sense. I'm glad you make coin on doing what you do, hell I wish I made that coin and yes that's cheap for pop programmers, I know some hip hop guys back in the day who paid way way more.

however, that's not what Todd and some others are trying to make a point of. Your track is a loop, where's the arrangement. The melody was ripped off from Yanni (which he's actually more of a pan flute player than a pianist btw) and you're making coin for what exactly. like it's said before, your marketing and sales skills are supreme.

btw, I wasn't kidding about the get me in the biz, hell I'll send you some loops if you pay me 25%, say $200, but they'll be original, so that's a bonus.

yeah i know the arrangement is simple. Thats the beauty of making money off of it. I go into sonar and create a 4 bar loop with multiple tracks and then cut out certain parts for the hook and shit. thats not worth 500 i know. but the fact i get it is beautiful.

i just wanted to make sure the beat has a pro appearence to give the dummy who bought the beat the apperence of excellence.
This B-rad lookin dude dont care about variety he just wants it simple and smooth.

The track bangs by the way. The kick can only be appreciated through something like basic car speakers. and up.

Besides what ever happened to the artist making the track. i mean if you look at the music on the radio now, look at soldia boy. his shit is worse than a loop. and if i remember correctly. all of the sample based albums in my large collection is a series of sampled loops. MOBB DEEP NAS JAYZ MASTA ACE, BROTHA ALI, SEAN PRICE, AGALAH, EVEN SOME OF 50 AND EM ARE THE SAMPLED PART PLAYED OVER AND OVER.

where is the common sense people. look around you. why is what i got for the beat so important. i usually get more. if i woulda known that was the issue i never woulda shared. I personally like beat. the kid loves the beat. We played the beat at a club through monitors off hours and it knocks. i mixed the beat around nas accapella and cut a nice hole for the vox to sit. Its wide. and the original version(not the my space) is crisp with defined high end and a knocking low. just cause i make a drum loop and dont waist time in throwing in variety for a dude who is willing to give me mom and dads money. SO WHAT.
my original work, the stuff on my album is nutzo anyway. and besides all that i am not even a beat maker. i flow check the my space. I buy good beats from people who know what they are doing... i just make beats on the side because it is fun. i dont want to be a beat maker for a living. the flow is too nasty for that. i would never trade in winning battles for the ability to make a beat like a pro.
I get money and i flow. and i am trying to learn production. dont get me confused with a producer yall
i am a artist. when i cut real tracks i pay for good studio time so dont talk down to me like im a dummy
I get money

[Todd]

You're losing a battle right now,, with the english language..

Ever heard of an adverb??

Oh wait, you're from the streets. (of the white suburbs)

Best of luck there B-rad..

[feedback711]

Originally Posted by Todd

You're losing a battle right now,, with the english language..

Ever heard of an adverb??

Oh wait, you're from the streets. (of the white suburbs)

Best of luck there B-rad..

im from the hood

get it right

the kid i sold the beat to is from the suburbs


dont hate.......hustle and work.

millions make tracks about hustling crack and white america eats it up. but let a white dude mention hustling a beat and every one hates.... if you wana make a difference with your opinion then vote soldia boy off the air. or that girl saying her lip gloss is poppen. thats a lame excuse for music...but it sells so....... do the math son.
or at least try

[Stevil]

Originally Posted by jahala

Just pray that the eagles' lawyers dont visit you anytime soon and take away your cash... ;)

& morcheeba.

[feedback711]

Originally Posted by Stevil

& morcheeba.

beat 2............



good stuff. you know your music

[dcwave]

Originally Posted by feedback711

I post a crappy mp3 to avaoid stupid people like your self from stealing it to make money off my shit.

Originally Posted by feedback711

Your suppose to get clearence but ohh well. alot of the pros wont chase you down or go to court over 500$ and if they do. **** it.... pay em off and keep moven.

What a dick. You're worried about people stealing from you but then you openly admit to stealing from someone else.

[RadioBox]

Originally Posted by feedback711

i just get money untill some one takes it.



Get money.

So basically, you steal music and sell it, then pay if caught.

Nice ethics.

Sell your integrity for $500. Yeah, get money.

[octatonic]

Originally Posted by feedback711

im from the hood

get it right

the kid i sold the beat to is from the suburbs

dont hate.......hustle and work.

If you have it all worked out then why are you asking for advice.
Someone of your towering self confidence shouldn't need worms like us to offer our opinion.

You come here asking people for their advice.
When they give it, you get all defensive.
You keep name checking people who are waaaaaaay more talented at this as though you are in the same league.
Based on your oh so very gay (and stolen) tunes, you aren't even close.

If you want help, then be prepared to be a lot more humble about this process.
If you just want everyone to tell you how great you are, then back to myspace you go.