My first metal mix in years
Adamnorrismusic
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10th October 2013
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My first metal mix in years

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10th October 2013
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Adamnorrismusic
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12th October 2013
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12th October 2013
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The problem is not with the mix, it's with the approach.

Adamnorrismusic
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13th October 2013
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13th October 2013
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Another mix? Well, at least you're getting some exercise...

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13th October 2013
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well I must say I think of the three you have posted so far this one sounds the best.
Adamnorrismusic
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13th October 2013
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Right on. As long as I'm going in the right direction
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13th October 2013
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Adamnorrismusic View Post
Right on. As long as I'm going in the right direction
Well, it is a "direction"...

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15th October 2013
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Hi Adam, I am currently making my own 5 metal songs, more along the lines of avenged or trivium. This is totally constructive criticism, I really like the song!

Are the drums programmed?

The kick is very clicky... too much even for metal I think.
The snare has no punch or definition.
The vocals are too loud (or everything else is too quiet lol)
The guitars aren't in your face.
The cymbals are kind of harsh and some levels are off a bit.
The vocals in the beginning are way to loud.
I can't really hear any bass if there is any and if there is, there is no definition.
Adamnorrismusic
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15th October 2013
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Thanks for the input jozz, i definitely hear what you're saying with the snare and cymbals. The drums are programmed, and unfortunately on a two track. I didnt really know what to do with it.
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16th October 2013
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17th October 2013
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I'd turn the guitars down a bit to let the drums stand out more. What software are you using for the drums? There's tons of tricks to thicken them up, but it all depends on your VST, EZ Drummer is pretty limited in my experience compared to Steven Slate or Superior Drummer.
Adamnorrismusic
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17th October 2013
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I didn't program the drums, they just come to me as a stereo audio track
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17th October 2013
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My bad, I apparently only read half of your post.
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18th October 2013
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To be honest, I don't really know what to do with a stereo drum track with that. You could try eqing in places, probably using several eqs to get it sounding ok to your ears. I would probably use clean stock eqs, not one's that try to emulate color. You could try to get the MIDI file/track from the source if you have the same plugin and edit from there. Or ask for a multitrack of the drums.

What are you using for the guitars? Amp sim? or real amp? which one?

When you get the sources sounding good on their own (maybe the drums processed but thats only to make a new "source"), you will be able to tell where the level of things should be much easier
Adamnorrismusic
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18th October 2013
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Originally I was using guitar rig 5, but I was having this really weird problem with their being a flanger sound in the guitars no matter what I did, so I reamped with a behringer v amp pro
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18th October 2013
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Ok cool. Try getting the biggest sound you can out of the modeller but watch the highs so you don't get the digital sound and keep it as dry as possible, not even reverb. Then bring it into your DAW and eq it if necessary and add reverb or whatnot. You can also try going through the v amp pro without a cab sim if it has that option and try guitar rigs cabs. Once you get a good, big sound out of them the guitars should sit with the drums pretty well without having to do anything.
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18th October 2013
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If I can figure out this weird flanging thats going on with guitar rig i might try that.
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18th October 2013
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That's how I get the best sound out of modellers anyway... :/
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