Is my RMS too low on this track?
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Is my RMS too low on this track?

I have been trying to fight against the "loudness wars" so often read about on this forum and other places.

I thought I'd stick my neck out and simply expect my listeners to turn their volume knob up.

So I have mastered my new album with way less compression and limiter than I have ever done before.

Have I gone too far - I'd really appreciate a little bit of feedback, as I'm losing my confidence in going down this path of greater dynamics. Although I'm convinced my music sounds better like this.

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Lol i was just going to ask where is the song, I'll give my opinion once it's uploaded
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haha... yeah, I was about to say it was so low I can't hear it... then updated to say it's not uploading.
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I'd say as long as the level isn't SO LOW that I can hear quantization distortion, it's not TOO low.
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This is one thing that always got me, for my personal music I'm always tempted to compete instead of going for pure sonic quality.. A little nervous as to how the audience would react to less loud music in Metal.
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I thought I'd stick my neck out and simply expect my listeners to turn their volume knob up.

Doh
Volume knob? What's that?
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OK, had a break from work and got time to reduce the length of the track so it would upload.

The tracks in my first OP.

So am I crazy mastering at this RMS level - I really don't want to use anymore processing even though I know
next to some releases my tracks are positively low in volume - unless of course you turn up your volume knob
then of course it will sound loud!

It's such a dilemma for me, as I like dynamic range and sound quality (well the best I can achieve with my limited gear)
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This is one thing that always got me, for my personal music I'm always tempted to compete instead of going for pure sonic quality.. A little nervous as to how the audience would react to less loud music in Metal.
As one of the metal audience: don't worry. Alot of us are used to the volune knob as we are swapping between new and old records

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Volume knob? What's that?
Your worrying me!
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As one of the metal audience: don't worry. Alot of us are used to the volune knob as we are swapping between new and old records

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That's re-assuring.. TBH!.
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i would limit a couple db to bring rms to -9 - 10. it really wont hurt.
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Maybe a small dip in the mid range and a small rise in the tops? Of course it depends what kind of sound you are going for, but I think a little here and there will go a long way in opening it up. Maybe even just half a db or so moves.....

Volume wise, I wouldn't worry. Sounds natural in that sense. Didn't seem shockingly low or anything.
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Maybe a small dip in the mid range and a small rise in the tops? Of course it depends what kind of sound you are going for, but I think a little here and there will go a long way in opening it up. Maybe even just half a db or so moves.....

Volume wise, I wouldn't worry. Sounds natural in that sense. Didn't seem shockingly low or anything.
I was really only worried about volume, tonally a made a few 0.5dB moves to get all the tracks to match across the album but I didn't want to add any top as I'm not keen of bright sounding tracks as I find it tiring to listen to personally especially when a lot of my sounds are coming out of VI's.

I could dip the mid's a touch more .... it depends on how it works with my vocal - I will experiment.

Thanks for your feedback :-)
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