Sigur Ros/Experimental Rock Track

[J F K]

Produced 2 songs for these guys so far. No SR/AT/BD. Mostly tracked live. Tell me what you think. Thanks in advance!

http://www.dwjk.org/retralaris.mp3
http://www.dwjk.org/intp2.mp3

[John_McEnroe]

the drums sound great. What compressor did you use? I love the way they pump. Pretty different style from what they usually do, strange to hear them sing in english.

[J F K]

Thanks, but its not Sigur Ros. it's LIKE sigur ros. Guess I shoulda made that clear in the title . The band's called Siamese Guns

It was all mixed ITB on a PT HD|2. Parallel drum bus compression, and 2 additional busses for the kick and snare. Mostly Waves RCompressor. No room mics, used waves Renverb smashed w/ rcompressor. Everything done in 44.1

[J F K]

Vocals: U87 > Eureka > C1Comp > RenEQ > RDesser
Guitars: MD421 or Ksm32 > ISA428 > McDSP AC1 > EQ
Bass: Direct into Eureka

[J F K]

Cmon, no advice? I'd say this is one of my best results to date and I want to know how it measures up

[dim light]

This is so ****ed up I'm starting to like it - I think the vocals are really interesting - Sigure Ros? Must be a joke - I think it sounds more like Swedish student living the vida loca in down town London. I like this song - Especially the vocals - I would try to glue everything together - the mix could be improved. Keep it up - interesting stuff!

[J F K]

Originally Posted by DWJK

Thanks, but its not Sigur Ros. it's LIKE sigur ros. Guess I shoulda made that clear in the title . The band's called Siamese Guns

[Narykcin]

This maybe performance, but it doesn't seem tight. It doesn't have the sync of live performance, i aural picture individual tracking, drums, then bass, then guitar, then lead, then vox. I think the mixing also gives that feeling. I'm listening to the second track and the drums pretty much sit way out front with a very dry sound. Also the frequency range, is the drums on the low in and guitar/organ/synth sounds are on the way high end w/ the vox. not much in the middle that gives the track body. The change-ups in the track cool, just lax a certain type of cohesiveness.


N

[keithfreund]

retralaris:

the tapping the first 30 seconds is really distracting- a lot more in your face than everything else in the song.

the vocals are pretty low but that may be a good thing. snare sounds good although its not loud enough. mix sounds good, but "small". depending on how much separation you had and other factors, you could make it big.

intp2:

good song. lead vocals are too loud. should be buried, probably. if theyre okay with it, drown them in reverb! itd probably work with the song.

[J F K]

Thanks for the advice so far

Updated versions:

http://www.dwjk.org/retralaris2.mp3 - Made backup vocals & snare louder, more limiting on entire track
http://www.dwjk.org/intp3.mp3 - Too many little changes to remember; vocal levels made better

Any comments are appreciated (:

[bewarethanatos]

Originally Posted by Narykcin

This maybe performance, but it doesn't seem tight. It doesn't have the sync of live performance, i aural picture individual tracking, drums, then bass, then guitar, then lead, then vox. I think the mixing also gives that feeling. I'm listening to the second track and the drums pretty much sit way out front with a very dry sound. Also the frequency range, is the drums on the low in and guitar/organ/synth sounds are on the way high end w/ the vox. not much in the middle that gives the track body. The change-ups in the track cool, just lax a certain type of cohesiveness.


N

I agree. Not a whole lot of low-end. It fatigues my ears rather fast.

Retralaris:
I'm not a fan of the guitars that are panned center. Vocals are practically sitting on top of them, and it's clashing. The drums and bass should be carrying the low-end of this song, since the guitars and vocals are all very clean and very full of high-frequency information. Almost there. Try panning the guitars out pretty far, like past the overheads.

Intp- Same with the guitars. The trem picking guitar, in my mind, would sound better panned almost all the way left, like 80-90% Then, the guitars that are playing during the style change (where it starts to get all Bloc Party [the vocal line "this is how we waste time" is almost exactly out of a song on Silent Alarm]) should be panned to opposite sides of the stereo field.

I think my "major issue" is with the guitars and vocals. Bass needs a little more low-end, same with the drums, but I like the way they're mixed level and panning wise. I just think the guitars need to be spread out.

And I know this isn't important- but I'm reminded of a mixture of Mogwai/Bloc Party when I listen to their songs. Sigur Rós has a very distinctive style, IMO. Again, I know this is just splitting hairs and isn't really important.