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Old 15th May 2012   #1
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a try on metal with female voice

hi!
it has been a while i was working on this track:
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I would say the style is similar to nightwish, within temptation, lacuna coil. The lyrics are in italian.

I have revised the mix several time and each time I'm not so satisfied.

My goal was to "test" komplete 8, studio drummer and guitar rig in particular.

now i'm trying with the studio drummer stadium kit, where i tweaked the room and OH mix for snare and the different mics for snare and kick.

For guitar and bass I used guitar rig (rammfire 4 the guitars) and garritan orchestra for orchstral sounds.

what do you think about it??
what I should refine??

This is the final mix, I still lack mastering.
thanks for listening!
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Hi, welcome

Some of the playing seems a bit sporadic occasionally (the acoustic guitar and drums)

Try to keep the lead vocal above the instrumentation - automation, compression, EQ, panning.

Otherwise, I like the song.
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Also, at 4:11 onwards, there seems to be huge peaks in the bass. Automate and (really) compress the bass.

The reason why many compress the bass so much is to pin it down and have it consistent throughout. A sudden fall in the level of the bass can make the song lose its fullness.
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Hi, welcome

Some of the playing seems a bit sporadic occasionally (the acoustic guitar and drums)

Try to keep the lead vocal above the instrumentation - automation, compression, EQ, panning.

Otherwise, I like the song.

Thanks for listening and for the suggestion!
actually, I forgot to say that i do not like so much the acoustic and classical guitar I have recorded (the song was actually made 3 years ago!! now i'm trying to remix it.)
also the synth at the very beginning should be changed.

the drums were played by jamstix according to my taste. what do you mean by "sporadic"? it is the groove that just does not work here and there?

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It just seems that, occasionally, there were extra hits or accents in the wrong place.
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More distorted guitar. Put a little reverb on the clean acoustic which strums in the downbeats, it sounds very "direct" with no ambiance. Was it an ovation plugged directly in?
Automation on the vocals or double compressing. Are you a native Italian speaker? The lyrics are a little hard to understand if you know the language. The vocals kind of have a prominent upper mid range which help her voice cut, but lack a little body. Maybe multiband compression, or just the right EQ.
The track overall is kind of busy. I recommend trying to strip some elements out and decide what is the most important element during the different parts. Like the song during the guitar solo loses energy because the guitar volume is low. Think of the guitar as "the other vocalist". Volume should stay approximately the same when the vocalist cuts out and the solo kicks in.
Try some artificial doubling on the vocals.
Keep up the good work. It sounds like it was tracked well and you have decent material to work with.
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More distorted guitar. Put a little reverb on the clean acoustic which strums in the downbeats, it sounds very "direct" with no ambiance. Was it an ovation plugged directly in?
there are 2 acoustic: the initial one (6 strings, recorded from its pickup) and another one which doubles in the chorus, that is an old 12 strings mic'ed. none of them are ovation. I'll take care of that!

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Automation on the vocals or double compressing. Are you a native Italian speaker? The lyrics are a little hard to understand if you know the language. The vocals kind of have a prominent upper mid range which help her voice cut, but lack a little body. Maybe multiband compression, or just the right EQ.
yes, the singer is italian...

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The track overall is kind of busy. I recommend trying to strip some elements out and decide what is the most important element during the different parts. Like the song during the guitar solo loses energy because the guitar volume is low. Think of the guitar as "the other vocalist". Volume should stay approximately the same when the vocalist cuts out and the solo kicks in.
Try some artificial doubling on the vocals.
Keep up the good work. It sounds like it was tracked well and you have decent material to work with.
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beside all this precious suggestions and the arrangment problems, what do you think about the sound / mix of just drums, electric guitar and bass?
my first goal was to achieve good "metal" sounds from komplete... to build a sort of template for future songs.
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