Beat i made (please give feedback)

[gt2009]

Ok, I'll leave feedback.

It sounds like background Music for a Bronx in the mid-80's Radio station on a blazing hot summer day.

Really jive and old school. I have absolutely no idea what I'd write, to be honest, to this beat......the Vegas strip? Show girls? hrmm...

Horns worked for the feel of it.

No I really think it's porn music!

I dunno. It's weird for 2011 but it's def well done.

[Quirome]

thanks i listened to a lot of sample based producers like kanye, rza, 9th ect..and i sample stuff most of my beats. I wish mike dean would listen to it.

[Hobbs_Won]

nice Bobby Caldwell rip....

[Freematik]

Originally Posted by Hobbs_Won

nice Bobby Caldwell rip....

LOL "THAT" is where I heard this before.... LOL I thought that it sounded like someone just looped a whole song...

[Larry Mal]

So, you sampled this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DmOU...eature=related

And sped it up a little bit, maybe pitched it some. I mean, it really sounds like you just sampled a whole song, or just removed the vocals somehow from a tune. There's not much that you added that I can see. It's good editing... but it's not really a "beat" you wrote, though, is it?

[Quirome]

what do you think about this one then...

[Larry Mal]

Good editing, good taste in music. I can only recommend that you study plenty of music and figure out ways to make the samples more your own, is all. Kepp at it!

[Quirome]

thanks man and im only 16 so ill get better with time. the original sample i chopped is Freddie's Dead by curtis mayfield

[ngrey]

Originally Posted by Quirome

what do you think about this one then...

I think that is someone else's song skipping on an old record.

[ReZoUnD]

Originally Posted by Quirome

thanks man and im only 16 so ill get better with time. the original sample i chopped is Freddie's Dead by curtis mayfield

why do u use your age...like its a excuse? i know 16 yr olds who are fathers, and some younger who are pianist...no excuse, just keep practicing and getting better...never make an excuse because thats puts focus on that and not your music or performance, hide your flaws through confidence

[Quirome]

im just sayin it not like ive been doin it for 20 years and that the best i can do

[Dayl]

Originally Posted by Quirome

im just sayin it not like ive been doin it for 20 years and that the best i can do

I know peeps that have been doin it for 20 years that should have quit a decade ago.

You're hot or you're not. Never make excuses.

Consistently compare your self to the best, find people that are better than you and learn.

Now go little grasshopper....... fly....... fly away on your journey, never to return until the chalice of musical excellence is in your possession.

[Classicbeats101]

Both tracks seem very looped. Good stuff and keep at it but chop them things up! Make different arrangements. Dont get me wrong sampling is looping as well, but you need more flavor hear some gangstarr and hear what im talking about. Dont take feedback as something bad either. Its a craft and you can get better if you focus. I have tracks that have loops as well but I always try to make it mine like dayl said. Just keep at it and practice practice practice. Train your ears to hear different parts in a sample, sounds dumb but trust me it works. Before I made beats I only heard lyrics never focused on the bits and pieces of the track itself.

[ncoak]

this is what hip hop has been waiting for. somebody put this kid on a plane to hollywood, STAT!

[Quirome]

Originally Posted by ncoak

this is what hip hop has been waiting for. somebody put this kid on a plane to hollywood, STAT!

Thanks man! thats the best compliment ive ever gotten about my music

[Dayl]

Ncoak's word is bond

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[Larry Mal]

Well, tell him how you would make a beat, then, someone. Come on... he's learning, this isn't the time for some bullshit negative talk.

Here's what I recommend: you seem to be good at cutting up the songs you want to sample. And that's cool, that's a great skill. But you are only using, as best I can tell, one song and that's it.

So, alright, check this out: it's basically something I heard of only today, it's pretty barebones. I don't know if it's actually a finished product or not, but it doesn't matter, it'll show what I'm talking about:

French Montana - Shot Caller [instrumental[Prod By Harry Fraud] - YouTube

He isolated the horn sample from a song. He put in some "la musica de Harry Fraud" vocal on it and wrote a beat (I'm pretty sure he wrote the beat).

This last bit is important, he wrote the beat out, so he can control it. What you've got is only whatever the drummer did on the song, and that's cool, but Harry here wrote the beat out, so when he wants to add intensity, he can put in another instrument (listen for when the shakers come in). There's not much going on in this song, just a looped horn and the beat changes and adds color and excitement to it.

You can also time stretch samples so that they fit your beat. He probably did some of that here.

But my point is, if you isolate the samples from songs, and add them to a beat, then you have the ability to leave a lot of space for a vocalist. It's hard to do that as a composer, but it gets easier.

But what you've got going on here is a complete song just chopped up and rearranged... so there's no real room for anything else, because the musicians on the original tracks didn't see a need to leave any because they were either singing (the Curtis Mayfield) or it was a vamp between vocals (the other tune).

So what you want to do is, isolate a cool instrumental part, and put it to a beat of your own composition. And if you don't know how to compose beats- by which I mean instrumental percussion parts- then learn that. I can tell you some of it.

I hope this helps- I don't know where you are musically, but hopefully I can be of some assistance. Either way, keep at it.

[Dayl]

Originally Posted by Larry Mal

Well, tell him how you would make a beat, then, someone.

He's here ... on GS. All he needs to do is sit back read, search, read.. worked for me and many others no doubt. I hear you though

[Quirome]

everything that i have learned about choppin is from listening to some kanye or any song that i like that has a sample then going and listening to the original song and trying to figure out the whole process the producer went through to get the finished product. All advice helps tho hopefully you'll see me on the credits of someone album soon.

[Tommycash]

Very nice. Keep on doin your thing and remember IT'S NOT WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF YOU, IT'S WHAT YOU THINK OF YOURSELF. Your music is your vision. i'm sure with time and practice you will develope your skills even further. Great samples by the way. I'm glad the young guys are using some soulful material.

[KT1]

If you are 16 which everyone is discrediting. I am impressed. Not by the beat but by your musicality. Somethings can't be learnt. Don't pe put off. The previous was right. If your feelin it then keep doing it. Never and o mean never start to deliver what people want. Be individual.

If you wanna sample a whole Damn song then do it. Get a decent daw and learn inside out. I think you should study arrangement and understand what keeps people captivated. Small changes and keep the music moving. Use the mix for that. Loads to learn this is a good place to start.

Use the check my mix thread.

Bless

Kid icki


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[beat you down]

nice pick.
with the right mc and rhymes maybe some smooth cuts i'd bump this.

music i listen to... i don't care if it's just a loop or how it's made.

but process wise... this would be boring to make to me personally cause it's just editing work.

[eldorado_p]

Keep doing your thing. Everybody here started somewhere. And I GUARANTEE you the people who are talking crazy are the ones who sucked the most. Even if you don't use an mpc go to mpc-forums.com or even futureproducers.com. They are more aspiring beatmakers on those sites where they will actually help you out more. This site is more gear/engineer orientated and alot more snobbish.

Btw the fact that you're 16 and you just started is something to point out. You know how to loop but start to chop and add other instruments on top. Also drums are VERY important. Don't rely on the drums of a sample. Get your drums on point. One of the best pieces of advice I got was to recreate beats I liked. It's like if you want to be a auto mechanic if you get a chance to take apart and reconstruct an engine you will understand it way better. Good luck and keep at it

[bigblessin]

Man their is nothing wrong with your method, but you just got to put a lil flavor to it. Ye and Jay Otis, UGK international players anthem etc are straight loops, so its all good. Put some extra drums over the sample and a couple of extra sounds. Also make your loop transitions smoother.