Excerpt from mastered mix .. Please Critique

Peter Juliano · 4th November 2005

I mixed this puppy on my manley 16 x 2 and I think it came out pretty well. Used Crane Song Trakkers, Distressors, Avalon 737, Nuendo, UAD-1, Apogee DA-16, Rosetta, Great River EQ-2NV, Neve 1073 Clone built by my father

Never Begun

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=1461

TyRip · 4th November 2005

I dig it.

I really like how thick the instruments sound. The mix sounds very full.

At first I wasn't crazy about the vocal, but it is sitting right where it needs to be to keep from turning the thickness into mud, its just has a more natural sound to it, rather than it being huge and thick.

Definitely seems like all your "color" gear didn't let you down.

I like it a lot, great job.

Peter Juliano · 4th November 2005

Yeah, I could see where you are coming from on the vocal sound. I think if I had a better vocal Mic .... something like a vintage U67. I really like the sound of those on vox. Doesn't Soundelux make a recreation of that.? Anyway, I do need a better vocal MIC than a TLM 103.

dim light · 4th November 2005

Yeah this is cool - i like the bass player - I want more dynamics on the drums - they sound a little flat. The sound is good! Cool song and great bass player - nice feel/groove...

Timothy Lawler · 5th November 2005

Great sound quality overall IMO. I agree that the bass is a standout. The high guitar line at 1:30 is beautifully done... gtrs are nice throughout actually. The vox starting around 1:00 is just little too hidden I think. I like its place level-wise in the arr there but just a little more intelligibility/articulation would be good. Drums sound good to me but lacking just a little in transient detail. I'm envious of your Avalon 737... used one in a studio recently but don't own one myself.

Tim

john caldwell · 5th November 2005

Yes, very good indeed. My nits:

1) A tad more sparkle on the snare
2) The 2nd verse lead voice does fall behind at 1:00, as Tim says. I don't mind being asked to pay attention to hear a lead voice, but when it's fairly dry like it is here, it doesn't seem appropriate. I'd just raise it 2db until the chorus, thereafter it's fine.
3) The distorto-bull horn backing voice in the chorus pokes through a bit at 1:36 to 1:39. It's also panned right behind the lovely lead guitar; what about panned mirror image away from the lead?

Again, excellent overall here.

John-

4th November 2005	#1
Peter Juliano Gear Head Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 62 Thread Starter	Excerpt from mastered mix .. Please Critique I mixed this puppy on my manley 16 x 2 and I think it came out pretty well. Used Crane Song Trakkers, Distressors, Avalon 737, Nuendo, UAD-1, Apogee DA-16, Rosetta, Great River EQ-2NV, Neve 1073 Clone built by my father Never Begun http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=1461

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dim light Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2003 Location: China Posts: 2,336	Yeah this is cool - i like the bass player - I want more dynamics on the drums - they sound a little flat. The sound is good! Cool song and great bass player - nice feel/groove... __________________ Moderators you can't kill my art!

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4th November 2005	#2
TyRip Gear addict Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Canton, OH Posts: 320	I dig it. I really like how thick the instruments sound. The mix sounds very full. At first I wasn't crazy about the vocal, but it is sitting right where it needs to be to keep from turning the thickness into mud, its just has a more natural sound to it, rather than it being huge and thick. Definitely seems like all your "color" gear didn't let you down. I like it a lot, great job.

5th November 2005	#5
Timothy Lawler Gear addict Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 319	Great sound quality overall IMO. I agree that the bass is a standout. The high guitar line at 1:30 is beautifully done... gtrs are nice throughout actually. The vox starting around 1:00 is just little too hidden I think. I like its place level-wise in the arr there but just a little more intelligibility/articulation would be good. Drums sound good to me but lacking just a little in transient detail. I'm envious of your Avalon 737... used one in a studio recently but don't own one myself. Tim

5th November 2005	#6
john caldwell Lives for gear Joined: Jul 2005 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 1,169	Yes, very good indeed. My nits: 1) A tad more sparkle on the snare 2) The 2nd verse lead voice does fall behind at 1:00, as Tim says. I don't mind being asked to pay attention to hear a lead voice, but when it's fairly dry like it is here, it doesn't seem appropriate. I'd just raise it 2db until the chorus, thereafter it's fine. 3) The distorto-bull horn backing voice in the chorus pokes through a bit at 1:36 to 1:39. It's also panned right behind the lovely lead guitar; what about panned mirror image away from the lead? Again, excellent overall here. John-