Metal mix

SLy_drums · 11th October 2005

Hi !

That's a recording we did (me and my former guitarist) last april in my home studio :

http://sylvain.raulin.free.fr/Test.mp3

It was done in only a few hours. We recorded that part quite quickly, after a jam session, so it's only a "beginning" of something.
The track levels are too high (saturation), because it wasn't planned to be a real mix but just a recording to work with to finally get a song, but we parted a few time after.

Guitars and bass were played by the guitarist.
Drums by me.

What do you guys think of that ? Please can you give your opinion ?

Ahellam · 11th October 2005

snare doesnt sound like it fits the style, reverb is great for the song, guitars too thin and bass not upfront enough, nice punch on the kick

rynugz007 · 11th October 2005

you guys can really play, i think it sounds great for a quicky recording. Guitar tones arent my kinda sound but it seems to work for the tune. ( a little too chainsaw ish for my taste). I really like the snare too

SLy_drums · 12th October 2005

Thanks for feedback thumbsup

Chris Parsons · 12th October 2005

Sounds great. Mind shareing how you got these sounds?

SLy_drums · 12th October 2005

Thanx Chris

We used the following :

Drums : Premier Signia Maple (10, 12, 16, 22)
Snare : Noble and Cooley Alloy Classic 14x4,75 (I used an Aquarian Terry Bozzio drumhead, not so tight, for the recording, which I found interessant sounding)
Cymbals : Sabian, ZIldjian

Guitar : Gibson SG Standard
Amp : H&K Tube 100 + Brunetti cabinet

Mics :
Bass drum : beta91 but we didn't use it finally (the sound you hear is a sample trig, which sounded better in that mix)
Snare : SM57 tom/bottom
toms : beta98 (10,12) ; MD421 (16)
OH : SM81
Hats : Oktava MK012
Guitar : SM57 / Studio Projects TB1
Bass : DI + Beta91

Preamps :
Mindprint DTC (OH, bass, guitar)
Soundcraft M8 console (toms, hats, bass drum)
Mindprint An/Di PRO 24/96 (snare)

DBX 160X on snare (love it !

)

All was tracked with an Akai DR8 (16 bits).

It sounds a little thin, we did some mistakes... Bass sound was terrible, so we had to make it very low in the final mix, but overall the global sound fits well the parts, i'm quite happy with it.

We now use a MOTU 2408 which has better converters, Brauner Phantom, AKG 414 ULS, etc ...
I recently ordered an API lunchbox + 1 x 512b mic pre (and 2 more 512c next month), I hope it will make the drums/guitars/bass sound bigger !!

Atari · 15th October 2005

The only thing that bothers me is the snare sound. I think it could use a bit of high mids. Or maybe ad some distortion to it. The kick could use a little bit more sub I think. The rest sounds great to me!
I'm wondering how a vocal would fit in there.

11th October 2005	#1
SLy_drums Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 762 Thread Starter	Metal mix Hi ! That's a recording we did (me and my former guitarist) last april in my home studio : http://sylvain.raulin.free.fr/Test.mp3 It was done in only a few hours. We recorded that part quite quickly, after a jam session, so it's only a "beginning" of something. The track levels are too high (saturation), because it wasn't planned to be a real mix but just a recording to work with to finally get a song, but we parted a few time after. Guitars and bass were played by the guitarist. Drums by me. What do you guys think of that ? Please can you give your opinion ?

11th October 2005	#2
Ahellam Gear addict Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 422	snare doesnt sound like it fits the style, reverb is great for the song, guitars too thin and bass not upfront enough, nice punch on the kick __________________ One good thing about music, when it hits you, you feel no pain.

11th October 2005	#3
rynugz007 Gear addict Joined: Dec 2003 Location: cincinnati, OH Posts: 463	you guys can really play, i think it sounds great for a quicky recording. Guitar tones arent my kinda sound but it seems to work for the tune. ( a little too chainsaw ish for my taste). I really like the snare too __________________ http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Lov...62853367074878

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12th October 2005	#4
SLy_drums Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 762 Thread Starter	Thanks for feedback thumbsup

12th October 2005	#5
Chris Parsons Lives for gear Joined: May 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 710	Sounds great. Mind shareing how you got these sounds?

12th October 2005	#6
SLy_drums Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 762 Thread Starter	Thanx Chris We used the following : Drums : Premier Signia Maple (10, 12, 16, 22) Snare : Noble and Cooley Alloy Classic 14x4,75 (I used an Aquarian Terry Bozzio drumhead, not so tight, for the recording, which I found interessant sounding) Cymbals : Sabian, ZIldjian Guitar : Gibson SG Standard Amp : H&K Tube 100 + Brunetti cabinet Mics : Bass drum : beta91 but we didn't use it finally (the sound you hear is a sample trig, which sounded better in that mix) Snare : SM57 tom/bottom toms : beta98 (10,12) ; MD421 (16) OH : SM81 Hats : Oktava MK012 Guitar : SM57 / Studio Projects TB1 Bass : DI + Beta91 Preamps : Mindprint DTC (OH, bass, guitar) Soundcraft M8 console (toms, hats, bass drum) Mindprint An/Di PRO 24/96 (snare) DBX 160X on snare (love it ! ) All was tracked with an Akai DR8 (16 bits). It sounds a little thin, we did some mistakes... Bass sound was terrible, so we had to make it very low in the final mix, but overall the global sound fits well the parts, i'm quite happy with it. We now use a MOTU 2408 which has better converters, Brauner Phantom, AKG 414 ULS, etc ... I recently ordered an API lunchbox + 1 x 512b mic pre (and 2 more 512c next month), I hope it will make the drums/guitars/bass sound bigger !!

15th October 2005	#7
Atari Gear maniac Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 198	The only thing that bothers me is the snare sound. I think it could use a bit of high mids. Or maybe ad some distortion to it. The kick could use a little bit more sub I think. The rest sounds great to me! I'm wondering how a vocal would fit in there.