Pop Punk Song....kinda mixed?

[Stoox]

Here is a song i've written in the past two day...it still needs to be properly mixed but i'd like some feedback on the basic track and i was wondering if YOU hear anything that you think needs to be fixed or retracked.

the auto tune thing is a last minute thing i added. im not sure ill keep it.
also at the beginning i forgot to chop some amp nosie out..you can here where i hit the strings a little.

Everything recorded in my basement.
i played everything.

myspace.com/tstooksbury

EDIT:
i put up a better mix
not final still
vocals need to come up a bit

[Stoox]

wow no one?

[Toro]

Sounds good, nothing new at all on the table but hey.. The guitars are a bit loud, the kick could be knocking a lil more, vocals need more spark they sound a lil muffle. But all together sounds good. However i'm listening on ipod muffs

[L-Rey]

sounds good, man. listening at really low volume... it seems that the vocals are gettin' a bit drowned out. i think it needs to be a bit more up front and in your face. any plans to stack vocals at the chorus?

[Stoox]

Originally Posted by L-Rey

sounds good, man. listening at really low volume... it seems that the vocals are gettin' a bit drowned out. i think it needs to be a bit more up front and in your face. any plans to stack vocals at the chorus?

thanks.
yea i am i think.

im fixing everything in the new mix.

im starting to second guess on the vocal track. i think i want to redo it.

what do you guys think?

[L-Rey]

redo-ing the takes are up to you, the producer. to me, i could still work with those takes to make it sound better. however, if you end up redo-ing the takes, you should try to sound more lively/loud/raw(like a good punk track should sound).
after listening to the track again, i think the chorus could also use vocal harmony... a 3rd or 5th(don't need full harmony). if you don't know harmonies that well, just sing it the same but with different energy... it'll give your hook a natural chorus effect.

just wondering, what plugins are you using?

[Stoox]

on the vocals its a digirack eq and a waves renaissance compressor.

i used the auto tune rip off in logic for the auto tune effect.
i have the untuned track underneath the tuned on a little.
there is some reverb and delay on the track too. i used sends for those.


the problems for the vocal seem like they are on the way in.

i tracked everything in logic using a firepod and then imported them in to Pro tools.

to be honest i think its the mic im using.
which is a CAD GXL2200

the vocal always just seems weak no matter what i do.
ive tried every way of tracking it possible.

my vocal coach says my voice is pretty thick.
its showing up quite a bit in the 200hz-1000hz

i will try to do a harmony though

[L-Rey]

i never used the mic, so i don't know. but maybe you need to invest in a decent mic preamp... for that smoother, warmer sound.

i'd recommend something by universal audio.

[Stoox]

yea id wish i could afford a universal audio preamp. Im going to keep saving though. hopefully in the next couple months.