Practice your mixing skills again, now ACOUSTIC

skidwasted · 8th February 2009, 10:09 PM

It's an acoustic ballad.
I guess it will be challenging due the several keyboards, piano and acoustic guitars.
Let's see what you get.

Tempo: 104 bpm

Drums
From the Lake of Sinners drums1.rar
From the Lake of Sinners drums2.rar

bass
From The Lake Of Sinners bass.rar

acoustic guitars
From the Lake of Sinners acoustic.rar

clean guitar and solos
From the Lake of Sinners guitars.rar

keyboards
From the Lake of Sinners keyboards.rar

pauloticks · 8th February 2009, 10:18 PM

this is going to be fun!

mp54u · 8th February 2009, 10:26 PM

This is great. I will have to take a stab at both the songs you posted this week.

ZEBRAAA · 8th February 2009, 10:35 PM

GREAT IM IN

tnx

MagnumXK · 8th February 2009, 10:39 PM

Cool, ill give it a quick mix soon.

LeMauce · 9th February 2009, 12:22 PM

Im in! Still didn't finished the "harder" mix... Time... SAE exam last Friday was going so/so. Ah well we will see. I post those mix's ASAP here.

LeMauce · 9th February 2009, 03:27 PM

Meh, I had 45min's of free time so I did a quick mix.
No EQ or track CLEAN up / arrangement stuff on any tracks, Only Panning. Ok, some high/low cuts. Small Chorus on the bass and a light touch of flange on the clean gtr.
I make several busses and put some bus-compression on different instruments. No Masterbus compression. Still have dynamics left. On the highest point around -15dBFS rms/-2.8dBFS peak. I'm not a fan to smash the shit out of it...
The plugs: Waves SSL and stock Logic 8pro (Chorus/Flanger/Space Designer with lexicon 300 IR).
It sounds still some how, dull not living enough. And the drums are to present otm, i think.

O BTW, I'm moving to a new place (final 40m2 of space for a new Ctrlroom and 15 for a liveroom in my new apartment) so I have ZERO room treatment OTM. So the panning could be have some odd issue's here and there and also the volume of busses compared with others. A what the hell, don't be gentle just fire the bullet

.

GS - Acoustic Mix V1 by LeMauce
http://www.mediafire.com/?wweetyqmtg2

tWoKp. · 9th February 2009, 05:32 PM

no vocals? its more challengin with vocals

Mixbuster · 9th February 2009, 06:04 PM

Drums = samples??

skidwasted · 9th February 2009, 08:42 PM

I haven't found a vocalist yet...
Yes, the drums are samples.

gregerlindberg · 9th February 2009, 10:17 PM

Im a real newbie in here, hope you dont mind i give it a go as well. =)

/Greg the swede

MagnumXK · 9th February 2009, 10:24 PM

skidwasted, if you have the midi files that would definitely make everyones mix sound different. With a track like that I think the midi files would be really good to have. Maybe switch out some of the strings and piano and such.

skidwasted · 9th February 2009, 11:15 PM

Unfortunately no...
I will only have the drums midi and maybe Thursday.
Does anybody know a program where I can convert the piano, strings from wav to midi?

LeMauce · 10th February 2009, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagnumXK

skidwasted, if you have the midi files that would definitely make everyones mix sound different. With a track like that I think the midi files would be really good to have. Maybe switch out some of the strings and piano and such.

I think that isnt a good idea. Row and mix with the tracks that you have. Make the best out of it.
For example in the Piano track there is clipping when the lower sections is building up. Im trying to get it out and i found several ways to fix it. And there are more moments like that in this song.
Its fun working with material like this. But the drums are to static played... But with some cut and paste and a nice lexicon 300 drumbooth IR you can already maked it more "live" sounding. It cost work afford and time and is for me mixx'en :)

MagnumXK · 10th February 2009, 06:27 AM

I guess you are right when it comes to keeping it a mixing job but i couldn't resist the temptation to swap those vi's with some nice ones. I was also considering adding small melodic parts to it but had to stop myself.

skidwasted · 10th February 2009, 10:31 AM

Be my guest to do whatever you want in these tracks

psycho_monkey · 10th February 2009, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidwasted

Does anybody know a program where I can convert the piano, strings from wav to midi?

Erm...just how much do you know about music technology?! If you're lucky, a monophonic melody line can be converted wav to midi fine. Polyphonic? forget it. Yes, I know about melodyne DNA...no it's not out yet...yes I am sceptical as to how accurate it'll be.

For me, that sort of thing changes the job from mixing to production. Just work with what's there. If it's mostly samples though, it's a very different set of skills to actually working with a live production.

Barbary Ape · 10th February 2009, 01:30 PM

^^Logic has built in audio to midi function. Works relatively well, complete with velocity but a lot of tweaking is required and also just on monophonic sources. It works very well on drums, tried it once on a bass line and it was a bit of a mess but with a few edits got it to work.

Fishmac · 10th February 2009, 06:50 PM

Hello!

I'd like to add my interpretation, spent sometime this afternoon, here's my mix:

Send big files the easy way. Files too large for email attachments? No problem!

In fact, I also had problems with the synthetic drums (the BD sounded like coming straight out the Drum-Machine), so I tried to give them a more natural feel with different reverb settings. The tracks also had some clips (Piano at the end) and some accoustic guitars were not played THAT clean. I did not try to fix this, just took it as it was.

BUT - I didn't like the guitar solo. The feel didn't fit well to me, and the fast part was faked, I guess. Playing some guitar myself, I decided to play a new solo over the track and replaced the old one (well, you said, do what you like with the tracks, right?)

I liked the dramatic atmo of the piece. Had fun with it. Let me know what you think,

Greetz,

Fishmac

CKK · 10th February 2009, 07:25 PM

Ill have a go on a Neve and a Tore Seem console.

BUT YOU REALLY HAVE TO GIVE US THE MIDI FOR THE DRUMS!!! so we can make them sound acceptable.

Fishmac · 10th February 2009, 08:09 PM

Oooops,

there was a problem with my download link...

Anyway, this one works - check it out:

Send big files the easy way. Files too large for email attachments? No problem!

skidwasted · 10th February 2009, 09:19 PM

A buddy of mine is working on the midis.
Maybe thursday they will be up.

cqd · 10th February 2009, 09:31 PM

Nice one...nothing on for the evening...shur ill give it a go..

skidwasted · 10th February 2009, 09:47 PM

Hello Fishmac!
Wow, I really dug your solo!
Would be asking too much you send me the .wav ?

ZEBRAAA · 10th February 2009, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidwasted

Hello Fishmac!
Wow, I really dug your solo!
Would be asking too much you send me the .wav ?

yes pls here too

dj_who · 10th February 2009, 10:36 PM

wow what a great scam.

put up tracks on a forum where talented engineers hang out (check)

make it into a game so people can have fun (check)

collect all the free mixes (check)

you are a genius skid, i wish i thought of this.

are you going to have your whole album done this way?

skidwasted · 10th February 2009, 11:53 PM

Yeah DJ!
If you tell me how I'm gonna make an album with songs without vocals and in mp3 format.

Old Goat · 11th February 2009, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skidwasted

Yeah DJ!
If you tell me how I'm gonna make an album with songs without vocals and in mp3 format.

Mr.HOLMES · 11th February 2009, 12:44 AM

I found this idea very exciting but without vocals and good drum sound or drum midi it is getting to be less exciting.

Would be nice if we could have the midi drum files.

Fishmac · 11th February 2009, 01:14 AM

Thanks for listening!

Sure, I'm gonna upload the solo as a wav. file tommorow!

It's a great Idea actually, because it works and people want to do it, for free. I like this idea, would also like it as a "helping out"-Forum, if one really has trouble to get a specific sound right. So others could help him out, if they want, and mix a part of a track or add an instrument they play.
It just gets difficult if you start talking about business...

8th February 2009, 10:09 PM	#1
skidwasted Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 74	Practice your mixing skills again, now ACOUSTIC It's an acoustic ballad. I guess it will be challenging due the several keyboards, piano and acoustic guitars. Let's see what you get. Tempo: 104 bpm Drums From the Lake of Sinners drums1.rar From the Lake of Sinners drums2.rar bass From The Lake Of Sinners bass.rar acoustic guitars From the Lake of Sinners acoustic.rar clean guitar and solos From the Lake of Sinners guitars.rar keyboards From the Lake of Sinners keyboards.rar

8th February 2009, 10:18 PM	#2
pauloticks Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cortland, OH Posts: 88	this is going to be fun! __________________ Sound Barrage Studios http://www.soundbarrage.com http://www.myspace.com/soundbarrage

8th February 2009, 10:26 PM	#3
mp54u Gear Head Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hastings, Minnesota Posts: 59	This is great. I will have to take a stab at both the songs you posted this week. __________________ MP54U "Rock and Roll aint noise pollution" "Rock and Roll will never die"

9th February 2009, 12:22 PM	#6
LeMauce Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Paris, Amsterdam, London Posts: 1,011	Im in! Still didn't finished the "harder" mix... Time... SAE exam last Friday was going so/so. Ah well we will see. I post those mix's ASAP here. __________________ It's never sounding right.... P M P

9th February 2009, 03:27 PM	#7
LeMauce Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Paris, Amsterdam, London Posts: 1,011	Meh, I had 45min's of free time so I did a quick mix. No EQ or track CLEAN up / arrangement stuff on any tracks, Only Panning. Ok, some high/low cuts. Small Chorus on the bass and a light touch of flange on the clean gtr. I make several busses and put some bus-compression on different instruments. No Masterbus compression. Still have dynamics left. On the highest point around -15dBFS rms/-2.8dBFS peak. I'm not a fan to smash the shit out of it... The plugs: Waves SSL and stock Logic 8pro (Chorus/Flanger/Space Designer with lexicon 300 IR). It sounds still some how, dull not living enough. And the drums are to present otm, i think. O BTW, I'm moving to a new place (final 40m2 of space for a new Ctrlroom and 15 for a liveroom in my new apartment) so I have ZERO room treatment OTM. So the panning could be have some odd issue's here and there and also the volume of busses compared with others. A what the hell, don't be gentle just fire the bullet. GS - Acoustic Mix V1 by LeMauce http://www.mediafire.com/?wweetyqmtg2 __________________ It's never sounding right.... P M P

8th February 2009, 10:35 PM	#4
ZEBRAAA Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: europe Posts: 268	GREAT IM IN tnx

8th February 2009, 10:39 PM	#5
MagnumXK Gear nut Join Date: May 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 94	Cool, ill give it a quick mix soon.

9th February 2009, 05:32 PM	#8
tWoKp. Gear nut Join Date: May 2006 Location: East L Posts: 127	no vocals? its more challengin with vocals

9th February 2009, 06:04 PM	#9
Mixbuster Gear addict Join Date: May 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 467	Drums = samples??

9th February 2009, 08:42 PM	#10
skidwasted Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 74	I haven't found a vocalist yet... Yes, the drums are samples.

9th February 2009, 10:17 PM	#11
gregerlindberg Gear Head Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stockholm Posts: 30	Newbie Im a real newbie in here, hope you dont mind i give it a go as well. =) /Greg the swede

9th February 2009, 10:24 PM	#12
MagnumXK Gear nut Join Date: May 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 94	skidwasted, if you have the midi files that would definitely make everyones mix sound different. With a track like that I think the midi files would be really good to have. Maybe switch out some of the strings and piano and such.

9th February 2009, 11:15 PM	#13
skidwasted Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 74	Unfortunately no... I will only have the drums midi and maybe Thursday. Does anybody know a program where I can convert the piano, strings from wav to midi?

10th February 2009, 06:27 AM	#15
MagnumXK Gear nut Join Date: May 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 94	I guess you are right when it comes to keeping it a mixing job but i couldn't resist the temptation to swap those vi's with some nice ones. I was also considering adding small melodic parts to it but had to stop myself.

10th February 2009, 10:31 AM	#16
skidwasted Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 74	Be my guest to do whatever you want in these tracks

10th February 2009, 01:30 PM	#18
Barbary Ape Gear addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 338	^^Logic has built in audio to midi function. Works relatively well, complete with velocity but a lot of tweaking is required and also just on monophonic sources. It works very well on drums, tried it once on a bass line and it was a bit of a mess but with a few edits got it to work.

10th February 2009, 06:50 PM	#19
Fishmac Gear Head Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 62	Hello! I'd like to add my interpretation, spent sometime this afternoon, here's my mix: Send big files the easy way. Files too large for email attachments? No problem! In fact, I also had problems with the synthetic drums (the BD sounded like coming straight out the Drum-Machine), so I tried to give them a more natural feel with different reverb settings. The tracks also had some clips (Piano at the end) and some accoustic guitars were not played THAT clean. I did not try to fix this, just took it as it was. BUT - I didn't like the guitar solo. The feel didn't fit well to me, and the fast part was faked, I guess. Playing some guitar myself, I decided to play a new solo over the track and replaced the old one (well, you said, do what you like with the tracks, right?) I liked the dramatic atmo of the piece. Had fun with it. Let me know what you think, Greetz, Fishmac

10th February 2009, 07:25 PM	#20
CKK Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Denmark - Europe Posts: 769	Ill have a go on a Neve and a Tore Seem console. BUT YOU REALLY HAVE TO GIVE US THE MIDI FOR THE DRUMS!!! so we can make them sound acceptable.

10th February 2009, 08:09 PM	#21
Fishmac Gear Head Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 62	Oooops, there was a problem with my download link... Anyway, this one works - check it out: Send big files the easy way. Files too large for email attachments? No problem!

10th February 2009, 09:19 PM	#22
skidwasted Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 74	A buddy of mine is working on the midis. Maybe thursday they will be up.

10th February 2009, 09:31 PM	#23
cqd Gear Head Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 58	Nice one...nothing on for the evening...shur ill give it a go..

10th February 2009, 09:47 PM	#24
skidwasted Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 74	Hello Fishmac! Wow, I really dug your solo! Would be asking too much you send me the .wav ?

10th February 2009, 10:36 PM	#26
dj_who Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: PA, USA Posts: 581	wow what a great scam. put up tracks on a forum where talented engineers hang out (check) make it into a game so people can have fun (check) collect all the free mixes (check) you are a genius skid, i wish i thought of this. are you going to have your whole album done this way?

10th February 2009, 11:53 PM	#27
skidwasted Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 74	Yeah DJ! If you tell me how I'm gonna make an album with songs without vocals and in mp3 format.

11th February 2009, 12:44 AM	#29
Mr.HOLMES Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,801	I found this idea very exciting but without vocals and good drum sound or drum midi it is getting to be less exciting. Would be nice if we could have the midi drum files.

11th February 2009, 01:14 AM	#30
Fishmac Gear Head Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 62	Thanks for listening! Sure, I'm gonna upload the solo as a wav. file tommorow! It's a great Idea actually, because it works and people want to do it, for free. I like this idea, would also like it as a "helping out"-Forum, if one really has trouble to get a specific sound right. So others could help him out, if they want, and mix a part of a track or add an instrument they play. It just gets difficult if you start talking about business...

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