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22nd May 2005
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| Gear nut Joined: May 2005 Location: Virginia Beach
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22nd May 2005
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23rd May 2005
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| Lives for gear  Joined: Sep 2003 Location: Sudbury, On. Canada
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Actually this might be the best recording I've heard on this forum up to date!! You sure know how to rock it man! Jason
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24th May 2005
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| Lives for gear  Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Irvine, CA
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This is a cool track--might fit well in a horror film. It's missing a lot of low frequencies, though--sounds like it starts to roll off at about 500Hz. Those low freqs. would give it a lot more impact. It's not very clear, either. It would be great to start the song sounding exactly like it does, but then open up to the full range of sound after the 1st verse, or something. It could be a matter of your recorder, your mics, or some filtering on the way in or on the way out...I can't tell.
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24th May 2005
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| Registered User  Joined: Mar 2005
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25th May 2005
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Ross, what are you monitoring on?! There's no lack of bass(could actually roll off some subbass), but rather the mix is too scooped out in the middle, like from 500Hz- 1500Hz or so. An easy problem to get with metal mixes I suppose. Rather than scoop everything out like the guitars, I'd suggest maybe shaping other things to fill in the holes they create. Peyton, did you scoop out a lot of these mid frequencies on things, possibly to reduce room sound(sdince you were worried about it)? The mix does have that bass buildup around 135 or so that seems to come from a lot of room on the bass guitar and/or kick... Modern metal seems to favor a very dry in your face sound, but this thing kind of sounds like old school metal to me anyway, so.. The vocal doubling on the line 'ice fortress' at about 1:24 is pretty off - maybe you could paste one in from elsewhere. Guitars are also kind of sloppily played, though the parts rock, and they are rather loud at the end. The vocal line gets lost in the verse. Some automaton of the vocal may help in addition to not scooping the mids entirely out of it. There is some cool panning in here, and the fact the track is mostly mono provides contrast, but I'd make the rest of the track more stereo too, if it was me. Is the thing clipping all the time, or did you limit it hard but keep the ceiling clear at 0db? I'd recommend leaving a little room at the top if you have to limit really hard like that. Jason, I'll agree that the song itself may be one of the cooler ones I have heard on here  - at least musically - I can't follow the lyrics well enough...Randy, he said he recorded the song - doesn't that mean he engineered it? - or is there some distinction I should know? Why did you bother posting other than getting your post count up even higher? You'd get one more if you'd come back and tell the guy something actually constructive  Thanks. | |
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25th May 2005
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| Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2005 Location: Irvine, CA
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There's sub bass, maybe below 80Hz, but the drums sound extremely thin, like a little paper kit, and the guitars and vocals don't have much body. I'm just guessing, but I'd say that everything from about 700Hz down to 80Hz sounds thin and tinny. At least on my monitors (Dynaudio BM15As) compared to commercial CDs like Pearl Jam, and the like.
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25th May 2005
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Really sounds to me like there is a major phase problem somewhere... are you mixing ITB? Did you use a cheap mixer or some worn out cables? Sounds to me like M/S stuff, but with only the sides and mixed in the center... really weird. And then those instruments that pop out on the sides... Clearly P.H.A.S.E. Cheers!  |
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26th May 2005
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Randy, if it wasn't for the 'grow up, son' part I'd say your reply was a decent answer to my question - that is I guess it is possible he didn't engineer the song just going by his first post - I apologize. I read other Peyton threads where he said he records other bands, so I am gonna bet he engineered this but didn't perform on it, but yeah, I guess it's just an educated guess. But who needs to 'grow up'? You have now made another post in this thread but still nobody has a clue to what you meant by "it's more than the room". Ross, I agree with the way you are hearing the instruments mentioned, but I believe the holes in the vocals and guitars are higher. The bass is there but maybe the phase problems that the other people mentioned are preventing you from hearing it? Peyton? Thanks. |
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Whats dose this recording need 
