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Old 21st September 2008   #1
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Mix help requested ...

Hello ,

Here is a new mix of a song we did not long ago, please tell me what you think of the production.

http://www.fuzzymonsters.com/audio/GHAD.mp3
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Rockin' tune !

Got to give my usual disclaimer and say I am no pro engineer so take that into account with my comments on production.

I really don't think it's missing much on production. I can hear everything pretty well but there are a few things I would have like to have heard more of actually .

all subjective of coarse ,

Lead vocal: in the verse seems a tad thin. I think it might be lacking in mid info to thicken it up and add punch. I'm gonna guess and say its not so much about adding more compression as it is what frequencies are getting lowered or boosted before or after the compression. Using a plug in doubler creatively might be an option also.

Guitars sound great but a little buried in the verse as well. Again I am thinking frequencies over a volume boost although that might be needed too.

I do like the song so please don't take the nitpicking on your production as any kind of slam to the song. I'll be looking forward to hearing more of the bands work.

Maybe some others will comment and my first impressions will be laid to rest as insanity.

I enjoyed the listen,

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depends on what sound you were going for...

this seems pretty synth driven rather than guitar driven.
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drums and keys are too prominent for me... push the vocal and take some of the click out of all the drums. Sounds like the drummer paid for the session if you get my drift. Guitars are a little blurred but you might be going for this.
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Hey guys,

Thanks for your replies!

The vocals: I am not sure the vocals are too thin as much as the rest sounds too big.
The guitars/Keys: it was a compromise, we could have gone either way "guitar mix" or"synth mix"; here is it kind of half wayin between. Do you think it was a mistake?
Drums: I will check whopaid for the session.

Did you guy feel that the stereo image was wide enough?
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The image seems nice and wide to me. But if you want more, I say go for it and experiment and check your mono from time to time.

After reading your last post I think you did a good job with working through the compromises.


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Just commenting on the guitar/synth compromise i was told something by a great man once...

"be either hot or cold, never lukewarm..." which means chose one and commit to it. The tune can be a great guitar song or a great synth song but never both...


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Just commenting on the guitar/synth compromise i was told something by a great man once...

"be either hot or cold, never lukewarm..." which means chose one and commit to it. The tune can be a great guitar song or a great synth song but never both...


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what about "the final countdown" by Europe!!!!

YouTube - Europe - The Final Countdown!!!!!

Isn't that the industry standard??


COOL song! You gotta push the guitars my friend this is metal rooted music, take those keys and fade them to the back of the mix, bring them in when the song arrangement gives them space, or just leave the space, the ending is a good example of that, good key solo part on top of the mix. Good stuff!

Made me want to kick someone face in, and then elbow them in the back of the head for good measure, just kidding, good song.
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hah, i love how a song has just been described as "industry standard".

either way, final countdown is a good example of a synth/guitar track but the synth drops out in a lot of the song and provides hardly any of the backbone. which isnt the case in this song...

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hah, i love how a song has just been described as "industry standard".

either way, final countdown is a good example of a synth/guitar track but the synth drops out in a lot of the song and provides hardly any of the backbone. which isnt the case in this song...

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I think you have a point. There are times when the synth melody needs to be up-front and there are times when the guitar needs to be up-front. We need to balance the two instruments better.

I will post a new mix shortly! Thanks guys!
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