have at it slutz...

[2pulse]

local emo/indie kids i tracked with a few fellow recording students. any feedback on the mix?

[Jules]

Semi Alien Ant Farm verse vibe - but thats ok, it's not illeagal!

Metallic snare explosion - gets on my nerves, was it a sample?

All I can hear is the &*^%& snare!

Thats all that seems memorable...

I suggest that you dont want the bassist / guitarists & lead singer ALL to be upstaged by a snare drum..

Lead vocal needs to be the king... send end notes in the chorus vocals off into long delays... give it a singing on top of a mountain vibe.. (see picture below for reference)

I would recomend a special snare treatment for each of these sections of the tune -

verses (chilled)
Bridges (getting bigger)
chorsuses (spanking away hard as if life itself depended on it)
M8 (custom treatment)
Outro.. (pool cue instead of drumstick, snare about to disintegrate into tiny pieces, drummer foaming at the mouth / more than usual)

[espasonico]

I think the mix is fine, the problem is the drum pattern because its so boring. It doesn´t work that beat, ¡t will be better a straight rythm differnt for each part. I think that´s why Jules say what it says.

Anyway you can do what Jules suggests and also I will try a less roomed sound with a delay in the verses a la Lanois

[2pulse]

Originally Posted by Jules

Metallic snare explosion - gets on my nerves, was it a sample?

All I can hear is the &*^%& snare!

Kinda... We recorded a few snare samples from that kit when we tracked... the live snare track had so much hat bleed (and we didn't have a dedicated hat mic) that we had to bring it down and layer in the samples in order to get the hat where we wanted it in the stereo image.

I wouldn't really say it sounds metallic, but you might be hearing the pretty-damn-live room we recorded in.. we gated the room mics and keyed them from the snare track to give it some extra size. but your point is well taken... I think we got a little too attached to the snare sound and gave it a few db more than it needed.

. i'll refer to that pic next time i'm struggling to find the right delay setting...

Originally Posted by espasonico

I think the mix is fine, the problem is the drum pattern because its so boring. It doesn´t work that beat, ¡t will be better a straight rythm differnt for each part.

yep.. the drummer's original part was stupidly busy, especially with the kicks... we pressured him to thin it out a little so that it wasn't fighting with all the 16th note guitar patterns.. since we were in a time crunch though, we didn't really have time to come up with much in the way of variation... just trust that what you hear is a marked improvement over what they came in wanting to play.

[chris777]

I love the guitar tone when it kicks in right around 50 seconds into the song.
What did you use for amp, gtr, mic

[chris777]

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[2pulse]

Originally Posted by chris777

I love the guitar tone when it kicks in right around 50 seconds into the song.
What did you use for amp, gtr, mic

I'm pretty sure it was a Mesa Boogie cab... the guitar was some double humbucker deal using the neck pickup - I'll check exactly what guitar it was.

We miked it with with a Sennheiser MD421 and Shure KSM-44 on different cones. We kept both mics panned together, but we tracked it twice and panned the separate takes opposite of each other.