rock/hardcore mix feat. DIEZEL HERBERT

[suiseidl]

i think this amp rocks! first time i recorded the guitars with one. btw hows the mix? plz comment ;-)

[suiseidl]

lol! 148 views and not one single comment... u guys forgotten how to use that thing with the all the little buttons in front of you? ;-)

[CorkyTart]

I'll comment. I think the guitar sounds amazing. I'd like to add that I recently got an Einstein and I'm finding it to sound very similar to the Herbert clips. Great job.

[Thijsemans]

The guitars sound very good to me. Maybe a bit too loud to my opinion.

[cfdude]

The guitars sound great, vocals are great too. I would change the eq on the kick drum. You need to have a beater sound, but what ever you did is not working. It's stands out too much. Eq it out a little or something. Otherwise nice job!

[memetto]

guitars sound great !

what mic/s did you use ?

[Energie]

Man

Deizel's are BRUTAL!! I love their sound. Guitars are a bit too loud, but they sound amazingly full

[suiseidl]

Originally Posted by memetto

guitars sound great !

what mic/s did you use ?

i used a neumann tlm127, akg c414 xls and an sm57 w/ tab funkenwerk mod, all mics at equal volume in the mix.

[jeremynothman]

guitars are a touch too loud in the mix - i can't really make out the vocals.
I agree that the kick isn't quite right for me

[eddyrox]

FU*KNG brutal! Loved it!thumbsup
Don't change anything.

[LSD-Studio]

good job.
guitars sound AWESOME!

[Audio Hombre]

guitars sound well tracked and well played- just 2 fackin loud sounds like they're suckin 90% of the tracks total headroom.

[mr breaker]

Maybe turn the guitars down A HAIR. Great sound... and I like 'em loud in the mix for this tune.

[Noize919]

Sounds awesome man, good job!

are the guitars double tracked and panned hard L and R?

also, what kind of compression and eq (if any) did you do to them. seems like you had to do something to tighten up the bottom end a bit.

[wesarvin]

This is the worst load of garbage that I've ever heard!


Just Kidding! Sounds awesome dude. Agreed with the other posters... tracking info please???

[suiseidl]

ok, thanx for all the positive feedback! ;-)
heres the tracking info, as far as i can remember:

guitar was a gibson les paul (dunno which model), straight into the diezel herbert (no stompboxes or anything in between), marshall cab (jcm something 4x10)

amp settings:
cant remember which channel we used, but something with hi gain for sure, dont know the knob settings for the gain. eq on the amp: turned down the bass to around 9 o'clock (this amp is truly overkill in the lows!), mids and highs at about 2-3 o'clock.

mics:
neumann tlm 127, akg c414 xls, shure sm 57 with tab funkenwerk mod. position for all the mics was a bit off center, pointing straight at the edge of the "inner circle" of the speaker (dunno what to call that bit of the speaker in english, the german word is "kalotte"). distance to the grill of the cab was about 1 inch. the mics were positioned so the signals were all phase-aligned. (did some test recordings, then zoomed in on the tracks to see if all the waveforms were all aligned correctly, then moved the mics closer or further away and did some more test recordings to check again)

pres + a/d:
api 3124+, gain was set so the guitars occasionally went into "red". pre out into focusrite isa 428 a/d inputs into digi002 via adat, 24 bit, 44.1

tracking:
rh guitar one take left and identical take for right, recording all 3 mics.

lead guitars one take left and one take right, identical takes, recording all three mics (that makes a total of 12 guitar tracks, rh + lead)

mix:
itb pro tools le, all 6 rh guitar tracks bounced into 1 stereo track, all 3 mics same volume, panned 100% left and right, same for lead guitars. eq on the stereo track was waves ssl channel, lo cut at about 100, slight dip at about 1 khz and 3 khz, slight hi boost at about 8 khz.

thats about it... later on i found out that waves api 550b eq would have been cooler for guitars, the ssl sounds a bit cleaner, the api adds in a bit of its "personal character", if you can say this in the digital domain ;-)

[fuzzyguitars]

sounds great.

guitars mixed just right, when the vocals arent going.

too loud when vocals going.

i listen to this type of music alot.

bass drum taking up too much space.

[te-problematique]

man I think the kick works sweet on my shitty little wharfedale + nad internet pc system...sounds real pro congrats

[twilight]

absolutely brutal guitar sounds, well done!

[nonamesleft]

dude! the guitars sound amazing!
i would also agree with the kick drum comments...something is not right there.

also, it sounds like there is quite a bit of distortion from limiting or something...

i love the song!

[fdrennan]

Well, I listened to the whole song twice : )

[Mho]

Great! Sounds perfect for me, including the kick...

[skatingbasser]

Kills.

Kick is definitely weird, but whatever.

[Garrett Openshaw]

Sounds tight! I could use a little harsher on the vocals, but that's just me. The kick beater sound sticks out a little, maybe move that freq up higher to 4k or so. Overall it hits hard and sounds awesome!

[suiseidl]

lol! i posted this about 9 months ago and people are still answering ;-)
well thanks for all the comments anyway! btw. the band is called "the cassidy scenario", this was the demo i recorded in their rehearsal room in early 2008. just finished the recording of the album, mixing starts next week. this time we used 3 amps- the diezel herbert, a mesa dual rectifier (both through a mesa rectifier cab) and a danelectro nifty fifty using 2 signal splitters and 5 mics. cant wait to get my hands on that mix- i'll post a song when its finished in about a week.

[suiseidl]

yo! here's the first mix of the first song of the album of the band mentioned above, located @ this thread:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/work-...fty-fifty.html

enjoy and / or critique! ;-)