New Track! Mix input needed... :)

[DjRio]

Thanks for all your input guys...

I tried the stuff suggested and it worked out nicely


One.

[djui5]

Vox down 1 DB.

stabs need some kinda verb or delay, track has "holes" and could use more "instruments" or something..

[DjRio]

Yeah i thought the vocals were a little too much "on top" of everything...
as far as instruments.. its meant to be just a percussive track.. But i guess i could add some delay on things to fill up some space.

Would u suggest maybe a chorus on the vocals?
Or just keep it raw.

[djui5]

Originally posted by DjRio
Would u suggest maybe a chorus on the vocals?
Or just keep it raw.

That might be kinda cool on a small level during the hook.....don't overdo it though.
Try it...see what happens.

[boody]

sounds great

I second the remarks of djui5. For my taste it's a bit too empty. I'ld love to be surprised every now and then. No need to fill it up but just add a bit of the unexpected?

good work! Goodluck with it
Budy

[DjRio]

Thanks for all your comments guys!

One more quick question...

I really love the kick drum on the track... but it has TONS of low end i believe so even though the mix is balanced out, when u turn the track up loud it just drowns out everything else on a big sound system...

How can i maintain the sound on that kick, still have it nicely thump, but not have so much low low end?

Thats the biggest problem im having with it.
I listened to it in a friends car not too long ago and the whole thing was booming and you could barely hear anything else. Its a low end i guess that didnt pick up on my monitors.


And yeah im gonna add some "surprise" percussive elements!

[djui5]

Originally posted by DjRio
How can i maintain the sound on that kick, still have it nicely thump, but not have so much low low end?

High pass filter the kick at 50-60hz or so......might even have to go to 80hz if the bass can take are of all that low end....

[boody]

for a radio mix, do what djui says, otherwise the low end will max out the stations limiters and take up all space. For a normal mix maybe filter the real low end a bit up to 48hz or so.

Have you already tried to take out a bit around 100-125hz? Might help as well.

goodluck, Budy

[NeoVXR]

beautiful,
but I'm afraid for radio it will not work.

2 hints:

there is a psychoacoustic trick. you can highpass very strictly, but with boosting the correct harmonics, the ear will supply for the basic. a tube simulator that adds more harmonics, could help also, and if still something is missing, try a EQ'd gated reverb on this. keep the attack soft and "african".

for the issue that it were too empty, I think it is the handclap sound. 2 tricks: if you have the parameter, you can add a slight ADSR to the pitch of the clap, so that it begins to speak, like "plow!". (its a milliseconds time setting)
for certain parts (e,g, what is meant as chorus) you could hide a small timbales sound behind the clap, and give it a similar adsr.
this may sound very sexy.
it can benefit from a very short, but delayed reverb (shorter than now).
the clap can be very mid-range and bold.

[DjRio]

Hey Neo, do u mean there's a psychoacoustic trick for the kick?
or for the track overall.

Im gonna try the high pass filter and hopefully that takes care of the problem.

I can just imagine listeners stereo's blowing up all over the province.

[thethrillfactor]

Originally posted by djui5
Vox down 1 DB.

stabs need some kinda verb or delay, track has "holes" and could use more "instruments" or something..

I know its a matter opinion, but i think the vocal level is fine(except the 3rd rapper which could could be up a touch). The Third verses usually lose their impact anyway.

I would like a little bit more muscle out of the kick,but its an 808 type so it would be tricky.

You can add a little compression to the whole thing if you like(the sound of a lot of mixtapes) or from the mastering.

Since you asked about mix ideas and not production, to give an opinion on it is pointless(and not the mixers job).

Its rap not rock or pop/rnb.

Simple,rugged and raw is fine.

Its a "desk banger"not a Timbaland cut.

More like "Boggie Down Productions"(that's a name from the past).

And not being on the radio is a matter of opinion also.

Yeah you may wanna do a version with something with the curses(reversed,gun shots,a scratch,whatever), but i have heard simple head banging sh*t on the radio & the clubs here in NYC.

In the end if people are feeling the track, than worry about them, not what we say(especially me).

Just my 2 centavos.

[DjRio]

Haha i know.. i do value people's criticizm's anyways.

[thethrillfactor]

Originally posted by DjRio
Haha i know.. i do value people's criticizm's anyways.

Yeah in the end though, its the cats that pick up the mixtape with your track that counts.

Good luck.thumbsup

[NeoVXR]

Rio,
>Hey Neo, do u mean there's a psychoacoustic trick for the kick?
>or for the track overall.

you can tune the "kick" (which isn't actually) so it pretends to have a phantastic low end while in reality not so much is there.
the harmonics can reflect the structure without the basic Hz being present. part of the trick is that tharmonics are like "chopped" by the low f. but it can't be a single pulse or a stochastic (noise like), it should be a periodic, perhaps with a downsweep. beware of interferences with the bass - ok here there is none.
of course you must leave enough energy in it to shake the stomach. but its not as low as it will be perceived.

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will you post half a minute of the result?