"Grey Goose" Mix. (alternate tuning acoustic with some drony electric)

rootsandruins · 13th October 2007

Hey, I'm just cutting my teeth learning how to mix ITB in pro tools. This is a song I wrote and recorded on a Project Mix with only a Studio Projects C3. (Even on the twin reverb) If you have any suggestions or tips about the mix, I'd be delighted to hear them. Thanks!

For fans of Owen/American Football/My Bloody Valentine

Edit! I uploaded a new mix. Let me know what you think! Thanks.

leary · 14th October 2007

well done! a realy nice piece of music. the drums are sounding a bit static to me. nice melodies nice arrangement. the guitar on the right is kinda running away and jerkey, but hey.... all in all: thumbs thumbsup

murergobben · 15th October 2007

Hi, another example that it´s possible to do some very decent sounding recordings from the projectmix. I really like your tune it has a nice vibe. I also think your mix sounds good and the way the guitars comes in from different sides is good. The only thing to point in my opinion arrangementvise would be in some part to leave the drums out more which would give the song a more exiting approach, maybe put in some percussions instead. It could be fun to hear more from you in the future, I own a projectmix myselfe and I´m kind of getting over the point whether I should have more expensive stuff or not to do good sounding stuff, now I just make music. It´s fun to hear what others are able to do on their PM.
Keep up the good work

Anders

rootsandruins · 17th October 2007

wow thanks for the replies from across the ocean. i've had pretty good luck with the project mix thus far. i've owned it for about 8 months and recorded in garageband, logic, and protools and it's been handy for each. i'm going to do another mix of grey goose. i forgot to do delay compensation for the plug ins on that mix. hopefully that will help some of the timing of the guitars. cheers.

nathan.

rootsandruins · 24th October 2007

hey. i just uploaded a new mix of this song in the first post. I did all the plugin delay comp that i forgot to do before and mixed up the drums a bit and added some new vocals at the end. give 'er a listen. thanks!

rootsandruins · 26th October 2007

bump!

no comments?

diatonic · 26th October 2007

riecespieces · 28th October 2007

I liked the music I didnt particularly enjoy the vocals they were too low in soe areas.. and the electronic drums felt a little too loose in some spots almost off.. I didnt enjoy the music itself tho I like the fx on the guitars and the real drums as well (then again most of the stuff I do is hip hop pop n rnb so this music isnt my area of expertise... Oh and I like the way u ended it too )

rootsandruins · 29th October 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by riecespieces

I liked the music I didnt particularly enjoy the vocals they were too low in soe areas.. and the electronic drums felt a little too loose in some spots almost off.. I didnt enjoy the music itself tho I like the fx on the guitars and the real drums as well (then again most of the stuff I do is hip hop pop n rnb so this music isnt my area of expertise... Oh and I like the way u ended it too )

Hey thanks for listening. All the drums are quantized, so they're not loose at all. I think maybe the acoustic's timing is a bit off in a couple spots, but during the electronic part there is no acoustic, so i'm not sure what you were hearing. The "real drums" were just played in on a midi keyboard and then time aligned. Added some tape saturation and some reverb. As far as the vocals. I like vocals that blend in with the mix for this type of music. If they were too far out front, the song would feel completely different.

china jam · 30th October 2007

The music is nice but I don't like the electronic breakdown thing.

You should use a softer bass drum in the intro where it's a bit too exposed, and maybe bring it down a touch overall.

I'd have to say that the drums are the weakest part of the song/mix.

The vocals sound a bit thin.

drakewire · 30th October 2007

The only thing I will add besides retweaking the drums is that you have a crap load of pile up in this track and the pannind is off on these drums... The vocals actually sound nice.. But you never want to pan the kick and thats what I feel is happening here..

Here is a basic minimalist idea

Guitars kinda Far Left and kinda Far Right
Vocals Center
Kick Center
Bass Center
Snare a bit left or right
toms a bit right and left
Splash or Symbols right and left

Music is an Image see it that way....

Right now everything is panned without purpose and the balances are completely off...

GOOD SONG THOUGH

rootsandruins · 30th October 2007

What you suggested is exactly how I have everything panned.

drakewire · 30th October 2007

LOL then do the opposite...

~
Or actually reduce the Reverb

15th October 2007	#3
murergobben Gear nut Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 126	Hi, another example that it´s possible to do some very decent sounding recordings from the projectmix. I really like your tune it has a nice vibe. I also think your mix sounds good and the way the guitars comes in from different sides is good. The only thing to point in my opinion arrangementvise would be in some part to leave the drums out more which would give the song a more exiting approach, maybe put in some percussions instead. It could be fun to hear more from you in the future, I own a projectmix myselfe and I´m kind of getting over the point whether I should have more expensive stuff or not to do good sounding stuff, now I just make music. It´s fun to hear what others are able to do on their PM. Keep up the good work Anders __________________ Everything grows, the right place

28th October 2007	#8
riecespieces Gear addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 390	I liked the music I didnt particularly enjoy the vocals they were too low in soe areas.. and the electronic drums felt a little too loose in some spots almost off.. I didnt enjoy the music itself tho I like the fx on the guitars and the real drums as well (then again most of the stuff I do is hip hop pop n rnb so this music isnt my area of expertise... Oh and I like the way u ended it too ) __________________ Websites http://www.riecespieces.com

30th October 2007	#11
drakewire Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 832	Hmmm The only thing I will add besides retweaking the drums is that you have a crap load of pile up in this track and the pannind is off on these drums... The vocals actually sound nice.. But you never want to pan the kick and thats what I feel is happening here.. Here is a basic minimalist idea Guitars kinda Far Left and kinda Far Right Vocals Center Kick Center Bass Center Snare a bit left or right toms a bit right and left Splash or Symbols right and left Music is an Image see it that way.... Right now everything is panned without purpose and the balances are completely off... GOOD SONG THOUGH __________________

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14th October 2007	#2
leary Gear Head Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: duisburg, germany Posts: 50	well done! a realy nice piece of music. the drums are sounding a bit static to me. nice melodies nice arrangement. the guitar on the right is kinda running away and jerkey, but hey.... all in all: thumbs thumbsup

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rootsandruins Gear Head Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 72 Thread Starter	wow thanks for the replies from across the ocean. i've had pretty good luck with the project mix thus far. i've owned it for about 8 months and recorded in garageband, logic, and protools and it's been handy for each. i'm going to do another mix of grey goose. i forgot to do delay compensation for the plug ins on that mix. hopefully that will help some of the timing of the guitars. cheers. nathan.

24th October 2007	#5
rootsandruins Gear Head Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 72 Thread Starter	hey. i just uploaded a new mix of this song in the first post. I did all the plugin delay comp that i forgot to do before and mixed up the drums a bit and added some new vocals at the end. give 'er a listen. thanks!

26th October 2007	#6
rootsandruins Gear Head Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 72 Thread Starter	bump! no comments?

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diatonic Gear addict Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 470	...

30th October 2007	#10
china jam Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kent, England Posts: 571	The music is nice but I don't like the electronic breakdown thing. You should use a softer bass drum in the intro where it's a bit too exposed, and maybe bring it down a touch overall. I'd have to say that the drums are the weakest part of the song/mix. The vocals sound a bit thin.

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drakewire Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 832	LOL then do the opposite... ~ Or actually reduce the Reverb