Jules' Sex Pistols / Foo Fighters guitar / kick sidechain trick - Page 2

Jules · 7th June 2004

Set up a (pre fade) Aux send above the trigger track(s) in this case the kick drum.

Send that to a spare mono bus.

"pick up" that bus on the "KEY" part of a compressor plug in that allows it

Waves C1
Sony
Drawmer
McDSP

Etc etc

(This can be a PITA on Logic but is easy on Pro Tools....)

genericperson · 8th June 2004

Thanks Jules,

Your dynamics ideas are perfect on this track. Really "pro" decision making.

Just curious,
i think you are going protools.>>dangerous 2 bus>>cranesong stc-8. did i get that right?

Jules · 8th June 2004

48K 24 bit PT session
16 Prism Dream ADA D/A
Dangerous 2 buss
Cranesong STC-8 compressor
Cranesong Hedd @ 96k 24 bit
Masterlink @ 96k 24 bit

Off the D2b I probably had hanging the folowing outboard

SSL comp on drum buss
Neve 1073 on Kick & Sn
UA 1176 on lead vocals + Fatso
Distressor on Mult of snare
Dbx 160 vu on mult of kick...
AMS RXX 16 reverb unit

genericperson · 9th June 2004

nice

if i heard this track on the usa rock stations i wouldn't think for one second that it "didn't belong" from a performance, style or mix standpoint. these guys should try to get exposure in the usa.

the big new music rock station in the new york area is 92.3 k-rock. these guys definitely deserve a chance on that station.

Jules · 9th June 2004

Thanks! I will pass that on to the band, it will give them a shot in the arm, it's given my early morning a 'lift' too!

amathie · 13th June 2004

Jules,

When you are talking about "hanging" your outboard off your D2B, could you explain the signal paths for individual tracks; eg are the boxes inserted between your D/A convertors and the D2B, or is there another arrangement?
I've just bought a couple of preproduction Phoenix Nicerizers and am just working out how best to incorporate them.
Ta very much

andychamp · 8th January 2008

I hear a lot of this in today's "bubblegum-punk" productions, and until now I used to think it was due to exaggerated maximizing/2buss-compression.
But when listening attentively, you can tell it's not on the whole mix.
Nice one, especially when dealing with big guitar walls AND fast kick action.

Harmonic Imprint · 14th October 2010

Great post, Jules. Thanks for the fantastic site and this example. Did the band get signed? Great technique indeed. Sounds like something that would play in regular rotation on KROQ here in Los Angeles.

Cheers,
Steve

AfterViewer · 16th October 2010

Erratic ! Great tracking, Jules. thumbsupstikethumbsup

Gary Ladd · 16th October 2010

Sounds like speaker saturation/compression, I'm gonna try this mixing in some transient control/distortion

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andychamp Lives for gear Joined: May 2005 Location: Basel, Switzerland Posts: 2,873	I hear a lot of this in today's "bubblegum-punk" productions, and until now I used to think it was due to exaggerated maximizing/2buss-compression. But when listening attentively, you can tell it's not on the whole mix. Nice one, especially when dealing with big guitar walls AND fast kick action. __________________ André ___________________________________________ "Recording exactly what a musician hears turns out to be a really big deal." Bob Olhsson "Who cares about efficiency, when we're talking about music?" Rupert Neve "it'll sound different through a microphone, anyway" Keith Carlock "no room, no boom!" Michael Wagener

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genericperson Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 521	Thanks Jules, Your dynamics ideas are perfect on this track. Really "pro" decision making. Just curious, i think you are going protools.>>dangerous 2 bus>>cranesong stc-8. did i get that right?

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genericperson Lives for gear Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 521	nice if i heard this track on the usa rock stations i wouldn't think for one second that it "didn't belong" from a performance, style or mix standpoint. these guys should try to get exposure in the usa. the big new music rock station in the new york area is 92.3 k-rock. these guys definitely deserve a chance on that station.

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amathie Gear Head Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 58	Jules, When you are talking about "hanging" your outboard off your D2B, could you explain the signal paths for individual tracks; eg are the boxes inserted between your D/A convertors and the D2B, or is there another arrangement? I've just bought a couple of preproduction Phoenix Nicerizers and am just working out how best to incorporate them. Ta very much

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Harmonic Imprint Gear interested Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 12	Great post, Jules. Thanks for the fantastic site and this example. Did the band get signed? Great technique indeed. Sounds like something that would play in regular rotation on KROQ here in Los Angeles. Cheers, Steve

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AfterViewer Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2010 Location: Great lakes State, U.S.A. Posts: 889	Erratic ! Great tracking, Jules. thumbsupstikethumbsup

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Gary Ladd Gear addict Joined: Apr 2007 Location: Preparing to escape New York... Posts: 463	Sounds like speaker saturation/compression, I'm gonna try this mixing in some transient control/distortion