RAW DRUM SOUND - Gearslutz.com

Gearslutz.com

All Advertisers
Go Back   Gearslutz.com > Audio file upload / Interviews / Podcasts / Video Vault / Links > Work In Progress / Advice Requested / Show & Tell / Artist Showcase / Mix-Offs


RAW DRUM SOUND

New Reply New Reply Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 31st January 2007   #1
Lives for gear
 
peeweedrummer's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Syndey
Posts: 500

Thread Starter
RAW DRUM SOUND

i would like to know how pro does my raw drums sound???

any advice or suggestions on how to get that nice tight carter beauford sounding kit

the gear that was used is:

sonor drum kit

semi treated room

kik in - e602-wunder
kik out -icis-ma 2.2
snr top/bottom-57- gml-dakin
toms-421-wunder/rnp
hats/ride-rode nt2/sp b3- pacifica
oh-u87-gml
room-at 2020-wunder

apogee ad16x @48

cubase sx3
Attached Files
File Type: mp3 17 months drums 23-1-07 short.mp3 (2.70 MB, 876 views)
peeweedrummer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 31st January 2007   #2
Lives for gear
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,856

sounds pretty frickin' good to me.

Explain how you tracked (mic placement and whatnot) if you could.
redddog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st January 2007   #3
Gearslutz.com admin
 
Jules's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Location: A Yank in London, UK
Posts: 17,810


Sounds fine to me!
Jules is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31st January 2007   #4
Gear Head
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 44

yeah those are some good raw sounds. like the snare alot.
myownsayingso is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st February 2007   #5
Lives for gear
 
peeweedrummer's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Syndey
Posts: 500

Thread Starter
pics of the kit space
Attached Thumbnails
RAW DRUM SOUND-01-05-06_2253.jpg  
peeweedrummer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 1st February 2007   #6
Lives for gear
 
Jason Poulin's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Location: Sudbury, On. Canada
Posts: 1,780

very nice man






Jason
Jason Poulin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st February 2007   #7
Gear Guru
 
Sid Viscous's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 15,878

This is a fun thread. I would like to hear the raw and processed versions of some people's drum tracks so I can see where I am with things.
Sid Viscous is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st February 2007   #8
Gear Guru
 
Sid Viscous's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 15,878

If ya don't mind the semi-hijack, that is...
Sid Viscous is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st February 2007   #9
Lives for gear
 
yumdrum's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2006
Location: South Florida
Posts: 1,065

Nice sound. And some tasty drumming! Sounds like the U87s are working for you!
ps- what model snare was used?
yumdrum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 1st February 2007   #10
Lives for gear
 
peeweedrummer's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Syndey
Posts: 500

Thread Starter
im trying to hunt down some photos from the session but in the end there were no special tricks i used i dont really know any haha.

the 57 on the top of the snare was placed about 8 cm from the rim and 8 cm high from the rim angled across the drum
toms 45 degree angle from skin bout 5cm away
hats 20 cm on the top near the edge angled across and in
oh (u87 mono)faced strait down in between first tom and snare 1.5 meters high (as high as poss)
L o/h (nt2)high 45 degree angle just outside kit perrimiter
r o/h (studio projects b3) high 45 degree angle just outside kit perrimiter
kik inside halfway in kik facing beater
outside kik (icis) 1.5 m away 50 cm off the ground with a bit off a tunnel made from offcut foam to focus more on kik
room AT 2020 other side of room facing a t fuser on the wall, 1 m from celing

the snare is a pearl 3 1/2 free floater brass snare i think with a coated empera

it helps that we have treated the room a little and made a little stage for the kit that provides a bit of timber under the kit as well as decupleing it from the carpeted floor ( would love an awesome soundin room)

my main problem is gettin each drum to have a focused sound while still sounding like a complete drum kit and not a bunch of drums put together, any tips would be great.

have a look at our myspace we should be posting this song as soon as it is done


http://www.myspace.com/airiusmusic
peeweedrummer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd February 2007   #11
Gear nut
 
redfivestudio's Avatar
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posts: 84

Sounds good for me too...

Hey, everyone lets post some raw drumsounds here...
It´s nice to hear raw sounds from different rooms and mics...

Toni
www.redfivestudio.net
redfivestudio is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd February 2007   #12
Gear maniac
 
Elof's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Location: London
Posts: 241

Quote:
Originally Posted by redfivestudio View Post
Hey, everyone lets post some raw drumsounds here...
It´s nice to hear raw sounds from different rooms and mics...

Toni
www.redfivestudio.net
I agree with you

The drums of peeweedrummer sound very good to me...

Here are my RAW DRUMS FILE please download it and tell me what you think.
It is a 24/44,1 wav file.

Recorded in a 50 sq meter room. All mics through TAC b1018 pres and into motu HD192 converters @ 44,1 and logic pro.

snare top: 421
snare bot: NT5
snare shell: akg C535eb
kick in: ev 868
kick out: c414
tom rack: d2
tom floor: d4
OH L+R: NT2-a
hht: c535 eb
room: line audio sm3

Some spot mics and mics inside two trashcans were also used but not icluded in this sample.

Nice thread!
Elof is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd February 2007   #13
Lives for gear
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: New England
Posts: 1,727

Those files sound great!

(As a guitarist learning to tune drums) I'm curious how you guys are getting that particular sound out of your snare drums (high, dry, and resonant). For ex., are both heads tuned up high to the same pitch, or is one head significantly higher than the other? Thanks!
6strings is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th February 2007   #14
Jax
Lives for gear
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 4,779

Great sounds and really tight hat work. thumbsup
Jax is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 5th February 2007   #15
Lives for gear
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: portugal
Posts: 1,140

...

Yup.... Raw drum sound are cool. Everyone should post some...
nandoanalog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th February 2007   #16
Gear maniac
 
ericwall's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 187

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sid Viscous View Post
This is a fun thread. I would like to hear the raw and processed versions of some people's drum tracks so I can see where I am with things.
OK. Since I'm a newbie on drum-processing I can't help join in on the hi-jacking of this great thread (sorry).

My "clean" example is from Mads Mikkelsen Drum Grooves CD, e.g. just a stereofile. Since I didn't record, don't know about mics or pre's, but it sounds almost unprocessed and "raw" to me.

My processed "parallell" example includes the "clean" track plus two mults I did of the clean track e.g. just two more stereotracks. All based on info from this site (from Ken Lewis,The Thrill Factor, Mike Shipley, e-cue, Slipperman, Pensado among others) Mike Shipleys tips to not use reverb on drums was interesting ( squash room-mics in a comp instead for example)
I just run one of the mults through an UAD 1176, all buttons in, and totally smashed it and added a little dist and eq.

Only efx here is a 1/8 note tapedelay very subtle on the clean track.

Took me, a newbie, 20 min to come up with, all ITB. I can imagine what a little more experimenting can lead to.

I'd love to hear more examples from you guys.

Shoot!

Edit: Oh yeah, crank up the volume 'cause I didn't push it through the L1 or anything.

/ EW
Attached Files
File Type: mp3 Mads M clean.mp3 (146.0 KB, 530 views)
File Type: mp3 Mads M paralell.mp3 (146.0 KB, 795 views)
ericwall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 8th February 2007   #17
Gear maniac
 
ericwall's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 187

Quote:
Originally Posted by peeweedrummer View Post
i would like to know how pro does my raw drums sound???

any advice or suggestions on how to get that nice tight carter beauford sounding kit

the gear that was used is:

sonor drum kit

semi treated room

kik in - e602-wunder
kik out -icis-ma 2.2
snr top/bottom-57- gml-dakin
toms-421-wunder/rnp
hats/ride-rode nt2/sp b3- pacifica
oh-u87-gml
room-at 2020-wunder

apogee ad16x @48

cubase sx3

By the way,

they sound great to me !

/EW
ericwall is offline   Reply With Quote
New Reply New Reply Submit Thread to Facebook Facebook  Submit Thread to Twitter Twitter  Submit Thread to LinkedIn LinkedIn 



Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Similar Threads
Thread Thread starter Forum Replies Last Post
Help With Raw Drum Recordings Sword in Hand So much gear, so little time! 16 6th January 2007 11:40 PM
Drum recording advice/raw mp3 enclosed dangeorge6 So much gear, so little time! 0 14th July 2006 06:17 PM
Gritty MPC Sound/ Nice and RAW Diesel So much gear, so little time! 1 16th January 2006 02:06 AM
Please tear apart my raw drum tracks! Chris Parsons Work In Progress / Advice Requested / Show & Tell / Artist Showcase / Mix-Offs 8 24th April 2005 06:06 PM
Check out my raw sound test syra So much gear, so little time! 27 29th February 2004 10:44 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:55 AM.

Home - Search Forum - Contact Us - Terms Of Use - Advertise on Gearslutz - All Advertisers - Archive - Top
 
 
Powered by vBulletin®
Gearslutz.com LTD - UK Company Number 7597610.
Registered Office - 35 Ballards Lane, London, N3 1XW.
Hosted by Nimbus Hosting.

SEO by vBSEO ©2010, Crawlability, Inc.