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26th September 2006, 09:28 PM
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| Gear interested  Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Cybertron
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| Sterling sound How can I get in Touch with them ? how many $$$ it would be for a 4 song Mastering ? |
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26th September 2006, 09:55 PM
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26th September 2006, 09:58 PM
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Yes brother, go ahead and do it ! 
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26th September 2006, 10:04 PM
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| Lives for gear  Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Ohio
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My rate for a sterling souding master is a mere $80/song. If you dont like it as much as your $475/hr. master from "Sterling Sound" just post them both and let the board take a blind vote. If I lose the vote, you dont pay a thing.
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26th September 2006, 10:26 PM
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26th September 2006, 10:38 PM
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by the way is there any link in your website where i can hear some of your work and what is your specialization , wich Genre of music , are you towards more POp/Rock/Urban (R&B) or? Thanx for replying..  P.S you can PM me if you prefere thanx Last edited by Solar; 26th September 2006 at 10:41 PM.. Reason: adding | |
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26th September 2006, 11:23 PM
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| Gear addict  Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Belgrade, Serbia
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There is a difference between attended and unattended mastering rates. But contact them, that's the best option, offcourse! 
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26th September 2006, 11:50 PM
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| Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto
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I like your challenge but of course you know that Sterling provides much more than sound. As both they and their clients will point out, there is the comfort level of working with a successful and sterling corporation and of course, shushi on the house. It doesn't matter how good you, or any of us are. We are just not in the right place or the right time to command those kind of dollars or that kind of respect. Sterling earned it early on in the game when high priced mastering was the norm and there was little competition. They were also in the right location. I do acknowledge that they continue to provide high quality work so it is hard to get labels to focus on comparing quality of sound from one mastering guy to the next vs the reputation for quality of sound that the high priced guys have established. The major labels are still putting big dollars in a few priority acts and they are not going to hire a regional mastering studio that usually does indie work for their big artist. And the indie guys are going to do the same thing if they can find the funds because if the majors do it, it must be the best way to go! There are some exceptions to this practice but mostly that is just the way the world works. | |
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27th September 2006, 12:12 AM
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27th September 2006, 12:31 AM
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| Moderator  Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Boston,MA Providence,RI
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| There's a GS member named "Masterer" who works at Stering... He frequents this forum. |
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27th September 2006, 12:49 AM
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or: http://www.lucey-wannabe-sterlingfor80.com/ | |
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27th September 2006, 02:04 AM
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With the utmost respect to Lucey, I'd be privileged to hear the two, and the difference's within.. And frankly, I like Lucey's bravado, at least we have someone, with some.. Cheers Lucey, Regards to all, FD  | |
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27th September 2006, 03:23 AM
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27th September 2006, 03:43 AM
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27th September 2006, 07:46 AM
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27th September 2006, 08:06 AM
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| Gear Head  Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Anywhere there is work
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 | I would just like to put out there that an unattended session for an indie artist/project will run you $175 a track and $75 per stem. The $475 hr is for major label clients. |
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27th September 2006, 09:03 AM
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| Gear interested Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Cybertron
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| Hey Guys one last question: who did the Mastering work for " thickfreakness " ? ( The Black Keys second Album ) |
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27th September 2006, 11:34 AM
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| Gear maniac  Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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__________________ Tony "Jack the Bear" Mantz Glorified Tape Copy Boy and Audio Janitor Deluxe Mastering Melbourne, Australia. www.jackthebear.com.au Last edited by Jack the Bear; 27th September 2006 at 11:51 AM.. Reason: Don't need the grief |
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27th September 2006, 12:50 PM
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| Hate to say it but my (only) experience with Sterling was not nice. First, the session was booked about a month ahead. Come session-date it's like "what, you are mastering today...?" Session delayed by two days. Get the master that is probably one of the worst sounding pieces of crap I've ever heard. The mixes were dynamic and breathing. The master was squared beyond recognition and scooped like crazy, all lows and highs. Distortion, even in the soft parts. The feel of the song changed from driving to laid back since there was no energy left. I wasn't able to attend the session since I'm on the other side of the world and the label approved the master before I even got a chance to hear it. Sterling has absolutely nothing to do with good sound. Sorry to say it, since everyone seems to respect them so much. |
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27th September 2006, 01:38 PM
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Listen to the thousands of discs they mastered, and then tell me they have 'nothing' to do with good sound. People make mistakes. The fact that you didn't have the opportunity to communicate your dissatisfaction to the ME is the label's fault more than Sterling's! | |
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27th September 2006, 01:41 PM
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27th September 2006, 06:13 PM
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Not only responsibility towards the client and his employer but also to the public and the music industry. Now that's a bigger picture. How are we supposed to sell records if the end customer can't even feel the energy of the songs ?  Sterling, as one of the most highly regarded mastering houses in the world, should stand in the frontline of the loudness war. They should have the balls to tell their clients that louder is not better. They can do something about this craziness since every other album released is mastered there. The question is are they man enough to do that. Every disc mastered loud is partly responsible for the loudness race. | |
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27th September 2006, 07:53 PM
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| I'm just wondering what input you gave them before the mastering - either in terms of a brief for the engineer or reference material. Sterling is well known for making hot masters - I'd imagine it's what most people want from them so that's what they would default to if they weren't told otherwise. There's been a lot of discussion about the whole loudness thing here, but the general attitude seems to be that if the client wants it they are going to get it. I've heard very conservative masters from both Marino and Calbi and I'm sure all the guys there are capable of doing great sounding, unsquashed work, but I'd imagine nowadays it gets done as a special request rather than the default. Sad I know, but that seems to be the way it is. So I'd be interested to know what the brief was, or if it was just a 'do your thing' kind of job. Cheers Matthew |
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27th September 2006, 08:07 PM
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But they also realise that they are there to provide a service to the client and if the client wants it loud then they will do that for them. can they do something about the craziness?? well they could decline the business but they will lose a lot of money cause the client will just go to the cat down the street who will give the client what he wants. also i would state that its every client that requests their disc loud is responsible for the loudness race. i'm sorry to hear that your disc was not too satisfaction but you haven't stated who instructed the engineer, if the label aproved it then maybe they had a input on to how it was mastered | |
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27th September 2006, 08:24 PM
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Basically this is what I was trying to point out in my previous post. A ME on that level should feel responsible to default to whatever sounds best. Not take the fast & easy way out and push the whole tune up to 0dBfs and get the a&r's smiling. It's the combination of a&r's afraid of loosing their jobs with ME's afraid of loosing the gig that is alarming. *** As for my brief to the ME it's the same as always, make it sound as good as it possibly can. If it gets through the chain of people all the way to the ME, that's another story. Some labels don't want the producers to "interfere" with mastering. *** Sorry for ranting, all the best to everybody. | |
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27th September 2006, 08:50 PM
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But what if it was what the client wants? Someone approved it? Regards | |
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28th September 2006, 03:10 AM
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| I'm sure Sterling are as accomodating with clients wishes as much as any mastering house. The only time I've ever had clients not happy with the master, which is twice, they didn't give me any brief whatsoever on how they wanted it to sound. So I made a master in both cases that was dynamic and open, and in both cases they wanted the master overly compressed and 'louder'. So I guess in Sterlings case that's what many of the clients are after, so that's what they did. So I just don't get it when people say their master was 'rubbish'. I'd say it's more bad communication on the clients behalf. All the engineers at Sterling have enough clients to back up their reptutation. |
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28th September 2006, 04:50 AM
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| I've repeatedly been given refs from Sterling-mastered CDs as examples. What I heard wasn't that completely smashed. It was hot hot hot, but any crap ME can get stuff more smashed while still not as loud... I also thought the Sterling refs were very w |
