Can someone master this track?

[skipp]

I've attached a clip of a mix I've just finished - I think its ready for mastering.

Many thanks,

Skipp




untitled track for mastering.mp3

[manman]

your file is clipping dam stupid at +12.5 rms

perhaps you should bring the volume down a bit

[CJ Mastering]

Mp3's should not be used for mastering. You need to keep your wave file at its original sample rate and bit depth.

[puremastering]

Not sure which one is the kick or the snare...

[MarkRB]

OMFG!!! LOLZRSS!!!.

This is just Hilaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaariiious!!!

Nice social commentary there, very astute.

I'm just pissed off 'cos I listened to it loud.

[Waltz Mastering]

Originally Posted by skipp

I've clipped a mix I've just finished

gfe

[Jesse Graffam]

The track isn't clipped or distorted at all if you decode the mp3 with headroom and compensate. Not sure what the hell went wrong with the encoding tho. Whatever encoder was used, STOP USING IT. lol.

Use Lame.

That being said... All I'm hearing is drums. Are you sure this is supposed to be mastered? And what are your goals in having this mastered? What is this going to be used for?

[loujudson]

I think he's pulling your chains. It isn't a mix, it is distortion!

But hey, anybody can master it - just depends on how much you want to pay and how bad you want it!

L

[sparqee]

That would be a funny challenge; post a turd of a mix and see who could do the best job polishing it.

[Jesse Graffam]

The mp3 encoder just put the wrong scalefactors in the frames, and it's clipping when you guys are decoding it.

It really isn't distorted at all...

Here I'll upload the mp3 with the scalefactor fixed. Done without re-encoding the mp3.

[skipp]

Originally Posted by Jesse Graffam

The mp3 encoder just put the wrong scalefactors in the frames, and it's clipping when you guys are decoding it.

It really isn't distorted at all...

Here I'll upload the mp3 with the scalefactor fixed. Done without re-encoding the mp3.

I clipped the hell out of it before I encoded it to MP3 (yes I was chain pulling). I soft clipped, limited and hard clipped at 96k, then converted to 44.1k, then to mp3. How the **** did you sort that out?!?!

[ed littman]

Originally Posted by Jesse Graffam

The mp3 encoder just put the wrong scalefactors in the frames, and it's clipping when you guys are decoding it.

It really isn't distorted at all...

Here I'll upload the mp3 with the scalefactor fixed. Done without re-encoding the mp3.

Yes, please explain the steps you have taken.
thx,
Ed

[trmchenry]

I think they're in cahoots! I'm guessing he edited some file header info with a hex editor or some similar approach. That or, you know, CAHOOTS!

[kosmasepsilon]

Or maybe jesse is skipp himself and had the undistorted file for showing here later :p
Now seriously, how did you do it?

[Surbitone]

If this really is the case, how did you do it? That is amazing. That first file is obliterated, then the one you posted up was fine. How is this possible?

[tenkas]

Skipp and Jesse are actually the same guy.

Skipp user was created in the month of June 2010. Uses probably the same IP (I can't check this).

Jesse owns the original and the distorted file (just to make things clear...)

This is by far the best joke anyone has ever pulled!


Thanks Jesse.

[jdg]

jesse probably used MP3Gain

[tenkas]

The problem is that if the drum sound was distorted in the DAW, it is impossible to reverse the damage done to the audio.

IMPOSSIBLE.


If it is the mp3 encoding creating the distortion, then it is possible to reverse it (I don't know how).

The author of the clip stated that he distorted the sound in his DAW.

The end.

[MMski]

Some good trolling. I laughed.

[Jesse Graffam]

Originally Posted by skipp

I clipped the hell out of it before I encoded it to MP3 (yes I was chain pulling). I soft clipped, limited and hard clipped at 96k, then converted to 44.1k, then to mp3. How the **** did you sort that out?!?!

Originally Posted by ed littman

Yes, please explain the steps you have taken.
thx,
Ed

the "soft clipped, limited and hard clipped at 96k" amounts to BS maybe? all i did was adjust the scalefactors of the mp3 file.

Originally Posted by kosmasepsilon

Now seriously, how did you do it?

if you decode into 32bit float and normalize, you'll end up with the same result, although you'll not be losslessly processing the mp3 file like i did.

Originally Posted by trmchenry

I think they're in cahoots! I'm guessing he edited some file header info with a hex editor or some similar approach. That or, you know, CAHOOTS!

technically i edited the frames, not the header.

Originally Posted by Surbitone

If this really is the case, how did you do it? That is amazing. That first file is obliterated, then the one you posted up was fine. How is this possible?

as i said twice... the original mp3 file has scalefactors that are way too loud, so that when it's decoding into integer based PCM, it's clipping the hell out of the values since that's limited to 0dB. when the scale factor is turned down "enough" it can decode without clipping.

Originally Posted by tenkas

Uses probably the same IP (I can't check this).
Jesse owns the original and the distorted file (just to make things clear...)
This is by far the best joke anyone has ever pulled!
Thanks Jesse.

Uh... thanks? It's not a joke tho. Maybe just something you didn't know about before.

Maybe this will enlighten everyone...

ALL mp3 frames are encoded at the same loudness (give or take 1.5dB), so that the noise masking works at an optimum level, and only while its decoding is the final level set based on the scalefactor values. If those values are too high, the output levels will be too high.

Whoever Skipp is... used an encoder that made the scalefactor values way too high. Or... they did the on purpose, for whatever reason. :P

Originally Posted by jdg

jesse probably used MP3Gain

Hey, we have a live one here.

Originally Posted by tenkas

The author of the clip stated that he distorted the sound in his DAW.

They lied?

Originally Posted by MMski

Some good trolling. I laughed.

Hahaha, me too.

Officially, I'm not Skipp. It was funny though, your responses.

[ed littman]

Excellent info..Thanks!

Ed

[tenkas]

Wow.... Best geek thread ever!